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Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by mbostleman »

ALittleLight wrote: post #23
jleyank wrote: post #3

"Hey, offending people sells and we're in it for the money...". If this bothers you, chant "we're in it for the money" until it doesn't. If it still bothers you, get outta here.

I find the idea that you shouldn't offend people odd and pretty recent. For example, when I was growing up, my mother would say "We have a G rated household." Meaning: in our household we could not watch any movies or TV shows that would not be rated G. As you might imagine, Netflix hosts lots of content that my parents would find offensive. Likewise, religious people might find pro-atheist content on Netflix offensi…

I don't think that offending people is truly the first principle. If that were the case there would be zero content. The attempt is to not be offensive to the specific sensitivities a specific group that is vocal in popular culture and that supposedly has the power to take down your brand. It would be interesting to see if that group really has power if all companies would stand up against them instead of folding.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by danlugo92 »

_gabe_ wrote: post #28
nicolas_t wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually think that Cuties was widely mischaracterised as a movie by people who didn't watch it and just reacted to what they thought the content of the movie was. It's actually a good thoughtful coming of age movie that talks about important topics and actually criticises the culture of hypersexualisation of young girls.

I respectfully disagree. I haven't seen cuties, but I just watched the trailer. The movie may be a good thoughtful coming of age movie, but the trailer (at least in my opinion) did not characterize that at all. If I watch a trailer and it seems to indicate a movie that's about the sexualization of very young girls, I think it's perfectly fine for me to cancel my subscription without watching the movie. You may disagr…

Read yourself.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by datalopers »

0des wrote: post #15
diebeforei485 wrote: post #8

They shouldn't shy away from controversial content for fear of offending people.

Their core demographic is offended though.

I'm not offended by their content, I just think the quality declined faster than they've raised prices. That's why I cancelled. Most of their original content is about as exciting and predictable as talking to a GPT-3 bot.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by justinzollars »

I now know, that if I lived in Ancient Rome I wouldn't have been wind swept by Christianity and converted, or If I lived in Salem I wouldn't have hunted witches. This is a religion we are dealing with. A mob and a stupid time in history to live. Netflix pays very well, you shouldn't need to protest at work. Grow up.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by ratsmack »

joemazerino wrote: post #4

I cancelled my Netflix account after the whole Cuties debacle. While visiting my friends I have noticed that Netflix content quality has been dropping sharply the last few years. Let's hope this exodus of customers and content creators will create a new, more interesting industry for the future.

>... quality has been dropping sharply the last few years ...

This is the same trajectory that Disney is taking. They are losing subscribers also as people are becoming tired of the agenda driven content.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by ambrozk »

joemazerino wrote: post #4

I cancelled my Netflix account after the whole Cuties debacle. While visiting my friends I have noticed that Netflix content quality has been dropping sharply the last few years. Let's hope this exodus of customers and content creators will create a new, more interesting industry for the future.

Sidebar, but the "Cuties debacle" is nothing more than a moral panic. Cuties is a great movie about an immigrant kid struggling to cope with a broken home by escaping her parents and becoming a "normal French girl." She doesn't know how to fit in so she tries to gain acceptance with her non-immigrant school-friends by hyper-sexualizing herself. The story a searing criticism of the sexualization of children, not a celebration it. The dancing scene that everyone complains about is deliberately constructed to disgust the viewer, not to titillate them: you're meant to see it as the protagonist's lowest point, when they realize that they are pretending to be someone they're not in a bid to escape her parents' marital trauma. People got upset about it without seeing the movie. It's a great movie.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by cr__ »

okareaman wrote: post #35

I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

Are there people passing laws to fuck with people with bipolar disorder? Are there people telling you that you’re incorrect or even mentally ill because you identify as a recovering alcoholic?

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by charlesju »

rossdavidh wrote: post #38
zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like they don’t want to waste their time on managing lot of prima-donnas.

Quite possibly, but if you had a labor shortage you would waste your time managing the prima-donnas for lack of alternatives. If you're about to do layoffs anyway, no need.

This is not true. People that are not aligned with the company's values create negative enterprise value.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by _gabe_ »

aftbit wrote: post #32
_gabe_ wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I respectfully disagree. I haven't seen cuties, but I just watched the trailer. The movie may be a good thoughtful coming of age movie, but the trailer (at least in my opinion) did not characterize that at all. If I watch a trailer and it seems to indicate a movie that's about the sexualization of very young girls, I think it's perfectly fine for me to cancel my subscription without watching the movie. You may disagr…

I'm not sure you're disagreeing. It seems more like you are proving the parent post's point. You didn't watch the movie, yet you had an emotional reaction to it anyway, and used that to make a decision about the service. The parent isn't saying that's unethical or anything, just that the movie is being mischaracterized by people who did not watch it.

Because I choose not to watch something that implies it may be sexualizing young girls? So by this logic if you see a trailer for a movie that's highlighting the dangers of child pornography, but from the trailer it seems to be showing and possibly promoting child pornography, and I choose not to watch that because I don't want to unwittingly view a film that promotes child pornography, I have now unreasonably cast judgment on this film? I don't think that it's unfair for me to criticize a film if the way they promote it seems to insinuate it's a film about ethically horrendous and illegal material.

The producers created the trailer to promote the film. If the trailer looks like it's promoting ethically perverse material, I have every right to cast my judgment at that point and say this film is not for me.

I'm not going to sit through a film that seemingly promotes itself as the sexualization of young girls because someone told me that it has a good message at the end. And that's fine. And it's fine for people to cancel a subscription because of that presumption. I'd rather be safe than sorry when it comes to stuff like this.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by 0des »

robonerd wrote: post #21
celdon25 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 99.9% of Netflix content isn’t outrageous in any way. You could say that's only because it has become the new norm. The Simpsons was considered to be controversial at first.

'Was', heh. Bart makes delinquency look cool and in the 90s I personally saw a fair few young boys my own age emulating Bart and getting into trouble for it. I think the Simpsons is appropriate for teenagers, but not much younger.

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