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The saddest “just ship it” story (2020)

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Re: The saddest “just ship it” story (2020)

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Having experienced this very thing, I can say: there's a good chance the other guys had already made their app in some form long before this guy did. Don't worry, bro: everyone has had a cool idea (all of which are very cheap -- ideas, that is) and then seen someone else doing it later. The good news is this though: if you're dishonest and connected enough, you can still make your app succeed. Especially if it's wors…

> if you're dishonest and connected enough, you can still make your app succeed. Especially if it's worse than your competitors'. Wtf is that supposed to mean?

That nepotism and sociopathy rule the tech business world the same way they rule most any other business world.

Re: The saddest “just ship it” story (2020)

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post #203

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Serious question, how do you know whether it's your product or your marketing that sucks? For example, I tried twitter ads for my product [1] and I got zero sales after spending $50. What are good marketing strategies for niche hardware products? [1] https://www.invisible-computers.com/

It's not clear who your product is for. "Everyone" is the wrong answer, BTW. If you try to make everyone happy, you usually end up making no one happy. It's super important to focus on actual user problems. 1. Is this solving a pain point the user has already? 2. Do they currently have some less-than-great solution in place? 3. Are they willing to pay for something which will solve their problem? Looking at your prod…

Hi s1mon, thanks for your feedback.

I'd say I have two customer groups in mind:

1. Technologically open-minded people who have a bit of money and want an e-paper calendar in their office or for their family. They can buy my e paper screen and set it up with the mobile app in 2 minutes.

2. Developers who want to build their own e-paper application and need a platform to build it on. They can buy my device and use the image-url feature to display their own designs.

Re: The saddest “just ship it” story (2020)

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post #172

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Serious question, how do you know whether it's your product or your marketing that sucks? For example, I tried twitter ads for my product [1] and I got zero sales after spending $50. What are good marketing strategies for niche hardware products? [1] https://www.invisible-computers.com/

Yeah, your website sucks. The product looks really nice, but the landing page barely even feels like it wants me to check it out. I can barely even tell it’s a landing page. I was actually thinking about exactly this product earlier this week. I have kids and their schedule is really complicated these days - some days some of them need packed lunches, uniform is different on PE days etc etc. I want to walk into the k…

'Yeah, your website sucks.'

I was expecting some geocities crap. From what I see, the landing page is clear, concise and shows me the relevant info I'm looking for.

Re: The saddest “just ship it” story (2020)

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aka Survivorship bias.

Aka the best type of bias.

It's certainly the best bias to suffer from as it means your project succeeded. It does mean people should take your advice with a grain of salt.

Re: The saddest “just ship it” story (2020)

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If your business wraps up does this turn into a pretty brick? My instant wonder and would be a deal breaker until I found out if the device pulls from the calendar directly or via a proxy you run if it helps any Going by the language in the privacy policy it’s the proxy method. I’d have to pass, personally. Looks great but I got no use for it if you shut down Also it’s “sold out” so I assume it doesn’t and won’t exis…

It’s pretty cheap to keep the API running and I promised myself I’d be doing that for many years even if I make 0 money with it. But I want to be upfront about the fact that there are things beyond my control that might force me to shut down some or all functionality. For example, if google shuts down access to the calendar API, the calendar feature will be in trouble.

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Re: The saddest “just ship it” story (2020)

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I have been working on a side project for going on 12 years now. In that time a bunch of competitors popped up. I gave up on the idea several times. All the competitors shut down their public APIs though, which is why I started up on it again about 5 years ago. I've got it in a place I really like. I use it daily. The biggest blocker for me right now to making it open is wanting improved security. I ideally want all…

plug in https://www.etebase.com/ and ship it :D

Huh, interesting. That's actually not a horrible idea.

Re: The saddest “just ship it” story (2020)

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post #31

Er, nice story, really entertaining to read, but I think it would benefit from actually mentioning the "competitor" app that he ended up paying money for. I mean, he won't ship his own app anymore, so no harm done in mentioning it, right?

I was also dying to know so I went digging. It's Google Tasks.

https://twitter.com/thekitze/status/1524809601538990083

Re: The saddest “just ship it” story (2020)

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I find it really fascinating how a completely different subset of Hackernews users answers to you than are present on other threads. As literary no sibling is voicing a dissenting opinion I feel compelled to present it: Purely from the user perspective I hate electron, because of its RAM usage. The speed argument is a straw man: Of course V8 is fast. And yes, VSCode is a very good IDE. But the problem is real world e…

> I find it really fascinating how a completely different subset of Hackernews users answers to you than are present on other threads. As literary no sibling is voicing a dissenting opinion I suspect the difference is because they are responding from a developer's mindset, not a user's. For devs, Electron really is the easiest way to make desktop apps, especially if one already has web experience. Users who dislike E…

> For devs, Electron really is the easiest way to make desktop apps

For developers who have never heard of Visual Basic, Delphi, or Free Pascal / Lazarus, Electron really is the easiest way to make desktop apps they know of.

There, FTFY.

Re: The saddest “just ship it” story (2020)

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> I find it really fascinating how a completely different subset of Hackernews users answers to you than are present on other threads. As literary no sibling is voicing a dissenting opinion I suspect the difference is because they are responding from a developer's mindset, not a user's. For devs, Electron really is the easiest way to make desktop apps, especially if one already has web experience. Users who dislike E…

> For devs, Electron really is the easiest way to make desktop apps For developers who have never heard of Visual Basic, Delphi, or Free Pascal / Lazarus, Electron really is the easiest way to make desktop apps they know of. There, FTFY.

I'm gonna be honest, vanishingly few people use any of those technologies these days, and I'm speaking as someone who has used VB and some Delphi before. Electron and JS has magnitudes more libraries and support than all three of those technologies combined.

To think that devs these days should use any of them is to be tone deaf to how the tech world works these days. Good luck convincing a dev, much less their boss, to use Delphi to develop their cutting edge desktop apps.

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