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Post by Puts »

filoleg wrote: post #208
Puts wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean there is no secret that Teenage Engineering is very inspired by the European early and mid 1900s design movement. I remember hearing an interview with Jesper Kouthoofd the lead Designer about how they approach product design in the same way as graphic design, just with more surfaces then a paper. Everything is based on a grid (Josef Muller-Brockmann and the International design movement), with focus on simple…

> Bosch T520 Just a tiny nitpick, did you mean Braun T520 by any chance?[0] 0. https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/braun_kofferempfaenger_t520.ht...

Sorry, you're right of course! :)

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Post by weatherlight »

zimpenfish wrote: post #191
tarentel wrote: post #156

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As someone who produces electronic music I kind of dig the limitations of the op-1. At a 2k price point though with those limitations in mind I can't justify the price. Even at ~1300 or whatever the old model is going for I can't justify the price. For cheaper you can get both a digitakt and a digitone, which I own the latter, and they sound 1000 times better than the op-1 although each respectively do quite a lot le…

> Even at ~1300 or whatever the old model is going for [...] you can get both a digitakt and a digitone You could probably get an iPad, a USB midi dongle, a midi keyboard, and a whole suite of software for that, too.

but then you are using software....on an iPad :/

(Which is totally valid if that what you want from your musical instruments)

People buy gear because they like a workflow and the UX/UI tactile choices a particular designer/ brand decided to highlight.

I love Elektron devices and I enjoy patching away on Eurorack. I'm pretty sure there's VSTS out there that will do 99.9% of the sound design I do with that gear, but then i'd be using an iPad or a laptop to do that... and that just completely kills the mood :/

People should (with in their means) obtain they musical instruments that allow them to create music :)

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Post by weatherlight »

bravura wrote: post #35

The people complaining about the price tag: I get it. But the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song. Why has no one else figured that out? With all these groove boxes etc, why has no other music gear taken the step of being portable and all-in-one. Show me another way to write a song in an airplane, and you can have my money.

Polyend tracker, any MPC any Elektron groove box, The Roland MC-X0X series, Native Instruments Maschine +, Synthstorm Deluge, etc.

yep... There's quiet a few :)

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Post by tweetle_beetle »

krnlpnc wrote: post #150

From 2011: Finally. After more than two years of development the OP-1 is now ready for production. Due to initial limited supply we now accept reservations. Manufacturing, assembly and shipping will be eight weeks. $799 https://web.archive.org/web/20110201230202/http://namm.teena...

Wasn't it originally manufactured in Europe to boot? Seem to remember a major price rise coming when they had moved production to Asia. There were many people selling their used European models for more than they had paid because it was still cheaper than the new RRP.

I guess TE took advantage of demand for an established product and use it to subsidise their other lines and new development, which I can't see them selling much volume on for the most part (maybe Pocket Operators?).

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Post by squarefoot »

bravura wrote: post #35

The people complaining about the price tag: I get it. But the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song. Why has no one else figured that out? With all these groove boxes etc, why has no other music gear taken the step of being portable and all-in-one. Show me another way to write a song in an airplane, and you can have my money.

> Show me another way to write a song in an airplane, and you can have my money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E54uAhMBA1A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q_d-rfzZPM

Note that the 1st video is from 2010.

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Post by likeclockwork »

agentultra wrote: post #185
aa-jv wrote: post #52

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I guess you're not yet familiar with the Synthstrom Deluge: https://synthstrom.com Far better than the OP-1, by miles .. See also the 1010music BlackBox: https://1010music.com/product/blackbox Easily set up on an airplane seat-table for production.

The Deluge is huge (size-wise) compared to the OP-1 and doesn't run off batteries, have wifi/bluetooth connectivity, sample editing, etc, etc. It's a nice groovebox but I don't think it really compares. $2k is a steep price but there's a lot going on here that's not immediately obvious to a lot of folks.

No, it really isn't. The OP-1 is tiny and Deluge only has twice the surface area. Deluge also has an internal battery.

I can't even imagine how WiFi or Bluetooth would be useful or desirable.

You can do quite a bit with audio on Deluge, as well. Run audio clips of unlimited length. Assign audio samples to kits.

Sequence as many tracks as you want for as long as you want.

Deluge has far fewer limitations than OP-1.

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Post by dmcginty »

zimpenfish wrote: post #191
tarentel wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who produces electronic music I kind of dig the limitations of the op-1. At a 2k price point though with those limitations in mind I can't justify the price. Even at ~1300 or whatever the old model is going for I can't justify the price. For cheaper you can get both a digitakt and a digitone, which I own the latter, and they sound 1000 times better than the op-1 although each respectively do quite a lot le…

> Even at ~1300 or whatever the old model is going for [...] you can get both a digitakt and a digitone You could probably get an iPad, a USB midi dongle, a midi keyboard, and a whole suite of software for that, too.

And for the $2000 MSRP of the OP-1 Field you could buy a brand new 13" MacBook Pro, an Ableton Live Standard 11 license, a Scarlett Solo audio interface, an M-Audio Keystation 49 USB MIDI controller, and still have some money left over.

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Post by dreamcompiler »

This is an absolutely magical device that nevertheless makes me sad.

When I was a kid I thought I'd be riding around in flying cars by now. The problem ended up surprising me: It's not that flying cars don't exist--they do. The problem is they cost a million dollars because every one is built by hand. So there's no way I'll ever own one.

I'd also like to have a portable synth with great sound, long battery life, a multitude of handy features, and excellent design. But it's the same surprising problem as the flying cars: The technology to build it exists but it costs 10x what I'd be comfortable paying.

I'd be okay paying 2x for the great design, but 10x just makes the thing a piece of wealth-signifying jewelry. Even if somebody gave me one, I'd never want anybody to know I had it.

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Post by buescher »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #91
bravura wrote: post #35

The people complaining about the price tag: I get it. But the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song. Why has no one else figured that out? With all these groove boxes etc, why has no other music gear taken the step of being portable and all-in-one. Show me another way to write a song in an airplane, and you can have my money.

>> the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song. Apart from... * Laptop with your favourite DAW * iPad with GarageBand or Android Tablet with Caustic * I would put Novation Circuit in similar category though depends on your definition of whole song * Synthstorm Deluge * Digitakt Elektron? * Some of the Roland grooveboxes and systems * Some of the Akai APC/MPC…

Yamaha QY70. I remember reading something 20 years ago, maybe more, about artists using it to compose while traveling. Probably Björk.

http://www.synthmania.com/qy70.htm

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