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Post by krnlpnc »

bravura wrote: post #35

The people complaining about the price tag: I get it. But the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song. Why has no one else figured that out? With all these groove boxes etc, why has no other music gear taken the step of being portable and all-in-one. Show me another way to write a song in an airplane, and you can have my money.

> OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song.

Laptops exist too. And also who is writing whole songs on the OP-1? A song needs to be bounced, mastered and uploaded which is gonna require another device.

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Post by nathanvanfleet »

krnlpnc wrote: post #139

I was so excited to see the announcement! Finally some new OP-1 stock will drive the prices back down to the original ~$700 mark. Nope! On what planet is this actually worth $2000? I'm really disappointed to see TE become this lifestyle company and continue jacking up their prices.

I feel like I have also seen this in the espresso community. Companies sprung up that are address a boutique audience that ultimately seems to be best-in-class but also charge some astronomical prices.

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Post by jhbadger »

smoldesu wrote: post #132
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. The OP-1 always reminded me of the IIgs keyboard. https://i0.wp.com/jdanatrent.com/wp-content/uploads/AppleIIG...

Funny how the "beautiful" of yesteryear looks like Yet Another Beige Box today.

I don't think the Apple "Snow White design language" products like the IIgs look like generic beige boxes (those were the uninspired IBM products which cared little about looks that were beige), but it is interesting how white has fallen out of favor as a computer color to be replaced by unpainted aluminum or black. The black craze was probably inspired by the NeXT cube which was the epitome of cool in the late 80s-early 90s.

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Post by jwr »

bravura wrote: post #35

The people complaining about the price tag: I get it. But the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song. Why has no one else figured that out? With all these groove boxes etc, why has no other music gear taken the step of being portable and all-in-one. Show me another way to write a song in an airplane, and you can have my money.

> But the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song.

An iPad running Korg Gadget is much, much more capable, though arguably not as hip and cool.

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Post by ciroduran »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #91
bravura wrote: post #35

The people complaining about the price tag: I get it. But the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song. Why has no one else figured that out? With all these groove boxes etc, why has no other music gear taken the step of being portable and all-in-one. Show me another way to write a song in an airplane, and you can have my money.

>> the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song. Apart from... * Laptop with your favourite DAW * iPad with GarageBand or Android Tablet with Caustic * I would put Novation Circuit in similar category though depends on your definition of whole song * Synthstorm Deluge * Digitakt Elektron? * Some of the Roland grooveboxes and systems * Some of the Akai APC/MPC…

Let's add the Nintendo Switch. I can get the KORG Gadget for 30£ and make some sweet tunes. Sure, to get the tunes out into something I can export sound from I'd need to get the KORG Gadget for iOS or Android, and from there to Ableton Live. But I've tried out the KORG Gadget on Switch and it's really fun to use.

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Post by j5r5myk »

fbanon wrote: post #131

I know a number of electronic musicians, and none of them has an OP-1, or anything from TE. The only person I know with an OP-1 is a designer at a startup I worked for, and he "didn't get around using it much yet ". So yeah, the $2000 price point will work great for them, given their customer demographics :)

I know a few professional musicians who have them and you can look up a host of famous musicians who are known to use them: Diplo, Bon Iver, Deadmau5, Yasutaka Nakata, even Ariana Grande has one. It seems to occupy a similar space to the Elektron products —- high end with a steep learning curve

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Post by 999900000999 »

krnlpnc wrote: post #139

I was so excited to see the announcement! Finally some new OP-1 stock will drive the prices back down to the original ~$700 mark. Nope! On what planet is this actually worth $2000? I'm really disappointed to see TE become this lifestyle company and continue jacking up their prices.

An iPad Mini + a Bluetooth midi keyboard will do anything this can do better and easier.

You pay for the brand and to say on Twitter that you use hardware

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Post by 323 »

krnlpnc wrote: post #139

I was so excited to see the announcement! Finally some new OP-1 stock will drive the prices back down to the original ~$700 mark. Nope! On what planet is this actually worth $2000? I'm really disappointed to see TE become this lifestyle company and continue jacking up their prices.

> see TE become this lifestyle company

TE always was a lifestyle company. All their products, including their gaming device, are about looking cool. Which is why device thinness is extremely important and the first thing they talk about. Just like Apple.

You don't buy a TE device to actually make music, you buy it to impress people about how creative you are, how you are not a pleb consumerist.

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Post by mrkwse »

alin23 wrote: post #133
fbanon wrote: post #131

I know a number of electronic musicians, and none of them has an OP-1, or anything from TE. The only person I know with an OP-1 is a designer at a startup I worked for, and he "didn't get around using it much yet ". So yeah, the $2000 price point will work great for them, given their customer demographics :)

Well there’s this guy on YouTube who demos all kinds of synths and got a huge following from his OP-1 videos: https://youtu.be/7z4hoazra_g The video shows me that OP-1 is a pretty cool all-in-one package, but it probably needs honing a special skill to work with it as smoothly as that guy does.

Even with RMR though, he's pretty much moved away from the OP-1 videos, I can't recall the video where he explained why 100%, but I think he found it a bit creatively constraining.
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