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Post by catlifeonmars »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #114
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #111

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Agreed. The OP-1 always reminded me of the IIgs keyboard. https://i0.wp.com/jdanatrent.com/wp-content/uploads/AppleIIG...

Teenage engineering synth designs are blatantly copied from old Casio synths and calculators: TE: https://images.musicstore.de/images/1280/teenage-engineering... casio: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJKofVLVYAAdKoq.jpg TE: https://img.kytary.com/eshop_fr/velky_v2/na/6369949662008700... casio https://cf.shopee.com.my/file/59a4ec33a7568b15f89ecd821e0bd8... But there something Ive-ish with the design as well, certainly.

“Blatant copy” seems like a stretch to me. They definitely seem like they could have been inspired by the Casio designs you linked.

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Post by capableweb »

crispyambulance wrote: post #106
iamricks wrote: post #98

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Great design and designers exist everywhere. There's nothing extrinsic to the companies in the US, Europe or Asia that makes any of them better at design. It's all about the internals of the companies themselves. I would say, however, that Teenage Engineering is "small" enough to take the kinds of risks that bigger companies just aren't able to do (even with much more money). Here's a fast company article ( https://w…

> Contrast that with KORG, who a few years ago created a "lab" in Berlin staffed with superstars with intention of creating ground-breaking music tech (https://youtu.be/Y0NY6iUqbEM). They clearly poured A LOT of money into that venture. Similar kind of hipster vibe, but what became of it? I don't know but it seems like Teenage Engineering is doing just fine.

That seems to have been kicked off just short of two years ago. Building hardware, especially this kind of hardware, takes a long long time to even reach the prototype stage, even longer to get it out of production. I'm sure the OP-1 Field we saw launched today has been in development since (or even before) the first OP-1 was launched, 10 years ago.

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Post by throw_m239339 »

tomashubelbauer wrote: post #120
throw_m239339 wrote: post #114

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Teenage engineering synth designs are blatantly copied from old Casio synths and calculators: TE: https://images.musicstore.de/images/1280/teenage-engineering... casio: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJKofVLVYAAdKoq.jpg TE: https://img.kytary.com/eshop_fr/velky_v2/na/6369949662008700... casio https://cf.shopee.com.my/file/59a4ec33a7568b15f89ecd821e0bd8... But there something Ive-ish with the design as well, certainly.

For something to be a blatant copy I'd expect when shown both samples of work, one could imagine how multiple people would have come up with the same end result based on the same inspiration, no innovation or invention of their own put into the process. When I look at the Casio products, sure, the general inspiration definitely could have come from those, but it's hard to see how one could honestly claim TE have not…

> For something to be a blatant copy I'd expect when shown both samples of work, one could imagine how multiple people would have come up with the same end result based on the same inspiration, no innovation or invention of their own put into the process. When I look at the Casio products, sure, the general inspiration definitely could have come from those, but it's hard to see how one could honestly claim TE have not invested any innovation or invention of their own when coming up with their products even if inspired by Casio. "Blatant copy" is an incredible stretch.

Some of these devices are popular and more than 30 year old. And these are not Teenage Engineering's...

Of course TE copied Casiotone series and of course TE designers knows very well they exist.

Old Casiotone synth designs are absolutely unique in the history of synth industry.

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Post by capableweb »

voigt wrote: post #82

I hope for 2k bugs it has at least an „undo“-button. The classic op1 doesn’t have one. Would increase my productivity dramatically.

Unlikely. People hailed the lack of undo (and the tape-recorder) as a feature because it makes you either commit to your mistakes, or having to re-record. Not for me, but that's what I've heard people say about it.

And also, "undo" is mentioned nowhere, and since they add "new packaging" to their list of features, I think undo would be mentioned there if it had it. I've heard an equal amount of people praising the lack of undo, as berating the OP-1 for lacking one, so they surely would have added it if they wanted to.

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Post by janekm »

capableweb wrote: post #122
crispyambulance wrote: post #106

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Great design and designers exist everywhere. There's nothing extrinsic to the companies in the US, Europe or Asia that makes any of them better at design. It's all about the internals of the companies themselves. I would say, however, that Teenage Engineering is "small" enough to take the kinds of risks that bigger companies just aren't able to do (even with much more money). Here's a fast company article ( https://w…

> Contrast that with KORG, who a few years ago created a "lab" in Berlin staffed with superstars with intention of creating ground-breaking music tech ( https://youtu.be/Y0NY6iUqbEM ). They clearly poured A LOT of money into that venture. Similar kind of hipster vibe, but what became of it? I don't know but it seems like Teenage Engineering is doing just fine. That seems to have been kicked off just short of two year…

Not to mention that the last 2 years haven't been the easiest for electronics product development ;(

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Post by lodovic »

bravura wrote: post #35

The people complaining about the price tag: I get it. But the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song. Why has no one else figured that out? With all these groove boxes etc, why has no other music gear taken the step of being portable and all-in-one. Show me another way to write a song in an airplane, and you can have my money.

I'm having a hard time imagining boarding an airplane for a 6hr flight, whipping out the TE and headphones and then spending the entire flight composing a quality song. Really, who does that? There is just too much noise from the plane and I'd feel like seeking attention.

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Post by beepbooptheory »

bravura wrote: post #35

The people complaining about the price tag: I get it. But the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song. Why has no one else figured that out? With all these groove boxes etc, why has no other music gear taken the step of being portable and all-in-one. Show me another way to write a song in an airplane, and you can have my money.

You just need a pencil and paper to write a song on an airplane! Also, why would you want to do that? Can't think of a less inspiring environment.

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Post by sdenton4 »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #100
httpsterio wrote: post #96

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I beg to differ. I mean sure, the OP-1 isn't as versatile as a laptop with a good daw and a few plugins but hardware still has its' place in some producers' gear bag. For a standalone device it's extremely versatile and it does sound good.

> I beg to differ. I mean sure, the OP-1 isn't as versatile as a laptop with a good daw and a few plugins but hardware still has its' place in some producers' gear bag. For a standalone device it's extremely versatile and it does sound good. First, we're not talking about hardware in general but that TE device precisely and second "it sounds good" is really a matter of taste here, the synth engine is very limited and…

I've seen the op-1 I'm the stage kits of a bunch of my favorite artists. Nine inch nails, Zola Jesus, Dan Deacon come to mind...

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Post by fbanon »

agloeregrets wrote: post #78
monatron wrote: post #6

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I remember buying the first OP-1 when it came out for something around $700 and even then thought "wow, this is a stretch". Since then they _raised_ the price of the original north of $1k. Don't get me wrong, TE makes incredible stuff and the OP-1 is no exception, but the price point just doesn't make sense unless you have serious money to burn. I had the same reaction to you after seeing the price for the mk2. At le…

> but the price point just doesn't make sense unless you have serious money to burn. Meanwhile, the OP-1 was used on like 40% of all modern pop music production process. I think the market is massively successful artists and they know they will pay.

LOL! Blatantly false.
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