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Re: OP-1 field

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Post by NikolaNovak »

bravura wrote: post #35

The people complaining about the price tag: I get it. But the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song. Why has no one else figured that out? With all these groove boxes etc, why has no other music gear taken the step of being portable and all-in-one. Show me another way to write a song in an airplane, and you can have my money.

>> the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song.

Apart from...

* Laptop with your favourite DAW

* iPad with GarageBand or Android Tablet with Caustic

* I would put Novation Circuit in similar category though depends on your definition of whole song

* Synthstorm Deluge

* Digitakt Elektron?

* Some of the Roland grooveboxes and systems

* Some of the Akai APC/MPC or Native Instruments Machine? Not fully familiar with either but I thought e.g. Akai Live lets you do a full production

* Bunch of other stuff I'm sure I'm forgetting

I feel we are actually in a bonanza and cornucopia of portable music creation devices! And that's a good thing :). Heck even the Yamaha Reface is super portable, battery powered, real keyboard, lots of sounds, and you can hook it up to phone or a simple recorder/looper to make good stuff on the go. OP1 might be the smallest by some metrics, that may or may not be seen as a good thing.

Re: OP-1 field

#92

Post by danielvaughn »

planb wrote: post #83

I have absolutely no use for the products made by teenage engineering, as I don't have a clue about audio production. But scolling thought their store, I still want to own these beatiful devices.

same! I’m vaguely interested in the idea of programmatically creating music, but I don’t think that’s the TE products are for, but still…I want one.

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#93

Post by throw_m239339 »

planb wrote: post #83

I have absolutely no use for the products made by teenage engineering, as I don't have a clue about audio production. But scolling thought their store, I still want to own these beatiful devices.

> I have absolutely no use for the products made by teenage engineering, as I don't have a clue about audio production. But scolling thought their store, I still want to own these beatiful devices.

Because you are the target, people who like nice looking hip things and can afford it. That device doesn't do much, doesn't sound particularly good, and certainly is sold to you at a premium. No wonder these products are sold at the MOMA...

Re: OP-1 field

#94

Post by throw_m239339 »

agloeregrets wrote: post #78
monatron wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember buying the first OP-1 when it came out for something around $700 and even then thought "wow, this is a stretch". Since then they _raised_ the price of the original north of $1k. Don't get me wrong, TE makes incredible stuff and the OP-1 is no exception, but the price point just doesn't make sense unless you have serious money to burn. I had the same reaction to you after seeing the price for the mk2. At le…

> but the price point just doesn't make sense unless you have serious money to burn. Meanwhile, the OP-1 was used on like 40% of all modern pop music production process. I think the market is massively successful artists and they know they will pay.

> Meanwhile, the OP-1 was used on like 40% of all modern pop music production process.

Citation needed, given how poorly its synthesizer engine sounds, I do not believe that the case one second. It's certainly hip among hobbyists though because praised by a bunch of youtube influencers...

To me your comment sounds like something you just made up entirely.

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Post by tom-thistime »

Tomte wrote: post #64
bravura wrote: post #35

The people complaining about the price tag: I get it. But the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song. Why has no one else figured that out? With all these groove boxes etc, why has no other music gear taken the step of being portable and all-in-one. Show me another way to write a song in an airplane, and you can have my money.

> But the OP-1 is literally the only piece of music gear you can bring on an airplane and write a whole song. I have zero music talent or experience, so let me ask: Would there be something missing with a quality soft synth on iPad with GarageBand? The hardware buttons, sure, but is it possible to write a "serious" song with such a setup (iPad, paid synth app)?

The iPad will work alone, and if you're just starting out it's fine. But it's best to add a tiny MIDI keyboard to the iPad. For extreme compactness, the Korg Nanokey 2 works well for me. It has nontraditional "button" keys, but so does the OP-1.

The iPad's touch screen is usable, but its velocity sensitivity isn't nearly as good as a hardware keyboard.

Re: OP-1 field

#96

Post by httpsterio »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #93
planb wrote: post #83

I have absolutely no use for the products made by teenage engineering, as I don't have a clue about audio production. But scolling thought their store, I still want to own these beatiful devices.

> I have absolutely no use for the products made by teenage engineering, as I don't have a clue about audio production. But scolling thought their store, I still want to own these beatiful devices. Because you are the target, people who like nice looking hip things and can afford it. That device doesn't do much, doesn't sound particularly good, and certainly is sold to you at a premium. No wonder these products are s…

I beg to differ. I mean sure, the OP-1 isn't as versatile as a laptop with a good daw and a few plugins but hardware still has its' place in some producers' gear bag. For a standalone device it's extremely versatile and it does sound good.

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#97

Post by radiKal07 »

agloeregrets wrote: post #78
monatron wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember buying the first OP-1 when it came out for something around $700 and even then thought "wow, this is a stretch". Since then they _raised_ the price of the original north of $1k. Don't get me wrong, TE makes incredible stuff and the OP-1 is no exception, but the price point just doesn't make sense unless you have serious money to burn. I had the same reaction to you after seeing the price for the mk2. At le…

> but the price point just doesn't make sense unless you have serious money to burn. Meanwhile, the OP-1 was used on like 40% of all modern pop music production process. I think the market is massively successful artists and they know they will pay.

source?

Re: OP-1 field

#98

Post by iamricks »

planb wrote: post #83

I have absolutely no use for the products made by teenage engineering, as I don't have a clue about audio production. But scolling thought their store, I still want to own these beatiful devices.

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Re: OP-1 field

#99

Post by iamricks »

cushychicken wrote: post #81
0atman wrote: post #2

I clicked through to the store thinking "Come on TE, what pricepoint have you set this time", and it's $2,000. Two grand. I chuckled, and closed the tab.

If any business on this site has taken to heart the advice to charge more, it's Teenage Engineering. Doesn't really seem to be hurting them, now, does it?

If you can't be the cheapest be the most expensive

Re: OP-1 field

#100

Post by throw_m239339 »

httpsterio wrote: post #96
throw_m239339 wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have absolutely no use for the products made by teenage engineering, as I don't have a clue about audio production. But scolling thought their store, I still want to own these beatiful devices. Because you are the target, people who like nice looking hip things and can afford it. That device doesn't do much, doesn't sound particularly good, and certainly is sold to you at a premium. No wonder these products are s…

I beg to differ. I mean sure, the OP-1 isn't as versatile as a laptop with a good daw and a few plugins but hardware still has its' place in some producers' gear bag. For a standalone device it's extremely versatile and it does sound good.

> I beg to differ. I mean sure, the OP-1 isn't as versatile as a laptop with a good daw and a few plugins but hardware still has its' place in some producers' gear bag. For a standalone device it's extremely versatile and it does sound good.

First, we're not talking about hardware in general but that TE device precisely and second "it sounds good" is really a matter of taste here, the synth engine is very limited and the first version didn't sound really good given its price. This is absolutely a hipster device, just like all TE products.

https://teenage.engineering/products/ob-4 650€ for a freaking radio?

Don't make it about hardware vs software, this red herring has nothing to do with my comment.

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