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Isn't the idea to ban client hardware capable of running such software?
What?
This proposal would force device manufacturers to run csam hashes and other content detectors filters on users' devices, right?
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I don't agree. "Ourselves"? Did I have a choice in my entire social network choosing to use Facebook and Twitter? Did I have a choice in LinkedIn being my best option for getting employment? No. I talk about this stuff all the time. I blog [1] about it and complain about it to my family and friends until it gets annoying. And it _does not matter_ how much individual effort I put into this because people have no incen…
Yes, because linkedin is not the best way to get a job. Jobs are the one area you have better choices. Indeed is much bigger anyhow. For social networks did you have a choice? Yes but your choices are join the network others are on, get others on networks you want or make friends on networks no one you know is on. This has always been like this.. if the group is going to a movie.. you can tag along, you can try to in…
> Yes, because linkedin is not the best way to get a job.
In my admittedly short experience, LinkedIn and in-person networking are tied on this front.
> your choices are join the network others are on, get others on networks you want or make friends on networks no one you know is on
I think it's bad that we're expected to choose between existing communities and our privacy, our consent, and our dignity. The correct way to address this is regulation.
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#143Now that covid is waning, we're back to 'the kids' in order to allow governments absurd amounts of power over individuals. None of these excuses are put forth in order to further the argument, it's to create a trap for detractors and be able to label them as evil people, killing grandma, hating kids, supporting terror, etc etc.
Just for the record, one can believe in Covid restrictions of 2020 and also believe this CSAM action is absurd and anti-privacy. Equating them is shallow at best and misleading at worst.
Here in Québec our PM just renewed the emergency measures 110 times: https://www.quebec.ca/sante/problemes-de-sante/a-z/coronavir...
One of the special power it grants him are no-bid contracts; among which are hundred of millions of dollars media organizations and public opinion polling of the population. He also reported the obligatory investigation that comes with invoking the emergency measures after the elections in October.
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I'm probably wrong here but don't you need a ton of real underlying content to make a deepfake? Like the reason you only see convincing ones of world leaders and celebrities is that they have their face out there a ton. By that logic you would need a ton of actual CP to create CP deepfakes.
I mean more generating like artificial humans: https://boredhumans.com/faces.php Some some tech like the above. Maybe the term deep-fake is not the correct one
Exactly. You need a lot of data to train a GAN.
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When you're a hammer (libertarian) everything looks like a nail (bad faith crisis management to justify to government overreach). The problem is the world is full of crises that need government support, the question is which do we want addressed?
The world is full of crises created by government intervention: healthcare, housing, education, etc.
Wait. In what period of human existence did people live longer, have more access to plumbing, or have better literacy?
The government caused all those things to go up
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you're a hammer (libertarian) everything looks like a nail (bad faith crisis management to justify to government overreach). The problem is the world is full of crises that need government support, the question is which do we want addressed?
What about in the case where many of these issues are almost always nails regardless of how convoluted or complicated they may look others? Andrew Cuomo falsified and hid information regarding his mismanagement of elder care facilities. Hong Kong has been placed under de facto martial law by the CCP with the goal of crushing dissent. Various governments and government organizations have spied on their citizens throug…
Wait, When did Orwell live in Nazi Germany or the USSR? And if you're going to compare current day to Arendt's experience in the Holocaust, then well, we just disagree strongly.
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#147As usual, the solution lies in peer-to-peer apps where there is no centralized provider that will have any responsibility or oversight. Wait... isn't that what infringers already use?
As a minor who has been messaged a few times people wanting nudes, some of them ask for instagram or snapchat usernames (are they trying to get caught??) and some of them ask for wickr (which does seem to be e2ee, so less stupid of them). I haven't seen any others, but this hasn't happened many times.
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#148The EU is honestly just so awful when it comes to anything relating to technology. The number of insane proposals I’ve seen from them over the years… It’s like they’ve got the worst political takes on tech from each EU country and smushed them together into a big ball of awfulness.
Yes. I'm pretty sure it's actual sabotage.
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> “becoming ever more reliable with time, as the algorithms learn“ I mean considering Amazon has put in kajillions of dollars on their learning algorithms and yet now in 2022 those algorithms still aren’t even smart enough to figure out trivial stuff, like that I’m probably not gonna buy a second air fryer immediately after buying a first one, and stop advertising them to me. What hope do we have for this new algorit…
It just showcases either the ones making the decision are naïve or they have an ulterior motive. They tried to justify it with the following footnote: > For example, Microsoft reports that the accuracy of its grooming detection tool is 88%, meaning that out of 100 conversations flagged as possible criminal solicitation of children, 12 can be excluded upon review and will not be reported to law enforcement; see annex…
The ulterior motive is gaining total control over citizens in EU member states. Which is also why the EU digital ID [0] will soon be introduced and a Euro CBDC will follow in the coming years. It's quite likely the Euro CBDC wallet will be linked (part of) the EU digital ID.
I expect at some point the EU digital ID will be required to use when accessing the internet or perhaps when signing up for email, creating a Twitter account and such. This EU digital ID will
EU member states will become a carbon copy of China. People will worry what they can say out of fear that they will not be able to spend their hard-earned Euro CBDC.
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#150Does anyone know why the EU is doing this? Everyone knows that the children thing is a pathetic excuse, but why do they want surveillance? I highly doubt that messaging is a big risk to EU stability. So why make such an effort?
It seems that EU is pushing for China-style surveillance economy. Not sure who is behind it really, and it's starting to feel quite shady. No one really cares about EU, because it's supposed to be benign.