So once you are of the age you can concealed carry a firearm you are also fit to watch TikTok?
Those seem equal... /s
Minnesota Wants to Ban Under-18s from User-Generated Content Services
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#22Anyone voting for this is clearly not fit to hold their position. Aside from the stupidity of thinking this is enforceable, it's hamfisted and misguided. When they propose such open-ended legislation there should be an ability for an outside party to make every single one of them fill out a survey of "Would this be allowed/disallowed under the new law?" with a bunch of examples. If the people who voted for it don't h…
You're expecting our politicians to actually understand the laws they vote on? That's just insane. What's next? Banning bills that are thousands of pages long and include countless things that are entirely unrelated to the actual topic of the bill? Come on.
I mean Ron Wyden of Oregon stands out by a country mile when it comes to actually trying to grok and pass common sense tech laws.
Ain’t enough Ron Wyden’s out there sadly.
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#24Funny, was talking to some friends on IRC today and a German user posted: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/messaging-and-chat-co...
Seems like stoking the Think-of-the-children train is en vogue. Brought to you by the 5 eyes nations of course.
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#25>The bill would eliminate minors’ access to any algorithmically generated navigation aids, such as “top content” and “hot items” lists. It would also eliminate home pages that are algorithmically organized, whether personalized to individual users or not, which would be replaced by a list of items presented chronologically (presumably in reverse chronological order if allowed because chronological order prioritizes t…
Genius! VPNs would get a lot more useful
I teach at a highschool (in Minnesota no less). VPN usage is already endemic.
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#26Most technical adults I know are in some stage of trying to revert their internet usage back to the offerings this bill would allow through. The less than 1 million users careveout is HUGE— allowing for the power of small forums, federated socials, etc. seems like a great bill unless you’re trying to exploit young people.
It seems you're implying everyone who disagrees with you is trying to exploit young people. It's the same rhetoric as the politicians who drafted the bill. We need to have open minds in civil society, some humility to anticipate desenting opinions, and careful fingers to type out comments with.
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#27This would effectively ban minors from the Internet. And many walled gardens. EDIT: There’s a case to be made for it! The Internet, especially social media, is as powerful as illicit drugs and probably impacts development. But IMHO, this should be up to parents to decide, and I think the lawmakers probably have no clue the extent of this kind of rule would be.
It's a little ironic to argue the utility of banning something by comparing it to another thing which is already entirely prohibited but completely widespread throughout all of society anyway.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of parents don't want unapproved media to reach their kids. If something like this passes, it's going to be at least because of parental support.
In that case, they are free to take responsibility for the media their children have access to.
Good luck. My uncles kid was always on dating sites etc at a young age. I did everything for them setting up restrictions, ensuring the kid had an account that only could access a few sites. They took away their tablet and phone etc.
The kid still managed to get caught hooking up with older men via Grindr.
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#29how are they even planning on enforcing this?
These old farts couldn't even sign in to Facebook without technical support. Do you think they understand even a glimmer of the technical ramifications of their proposed law? Usually when laws like this fail for technical reasons, they try to compensate the embarrassment by hammering harder with the penalties.
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#30It feels like there is no free speech party in the United States anymore.