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Minnesota Wants to Ban Under-18s from User-Generated Content Services

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Re: Minnesota Wants to Ban Under-18s from User-Generated Content Services

#11

This is probably for the best. I’m fine saying “think of the children” when you’re talking about … children. There’s really bad stuff out there. Think of the children.

A 16 year old can, in most cases, be legally independent of their parents: living on their own. They can also, in many states (and countries), legally give consent for sex.

But we shouldn't let them view user generated content?

Seems inconsistent at best.

Re: Minnesota Wants to Ban Under-18s from User-Generated Content Services

#13
>The bill would eliminate minors’ access to any algorithmically generated navigation aids, such as “top content” and “hot items” lists. It would also eliminate home pages that are algorithmically organized, whether personalized to individual users or not, which would be replaced by a list of items presented chronologically (presumably in reverse chronological order if allowed because chronological order prioritizes the oldest content, which is rarely what users want). Assuming minors can subscribe to other users’ content, they will have to subscribe sparingly to avoid being overwhelmed by an incoming flow of content unhelpfully organized solely by date. The minors would also have to constantly review the content to avoid missing something important (remember, popular or important content wouldn’t be highlighted, so it could be easily missed).

Sorry for the snark, but could I change my age to 17 to get access to this? Sounds like a dream feature.

Re: Minnesota Wants to Ban Under-18s from User-Generated Content Services

#14

Proverbs 22:6 "Train up a child in the way he should go, And when he is old he will not depart from it." the elites don't want "unapproved" ideas getting into the minds of malleable youth...shaping the minds of youth is solely the province of our benevolent elites...

A lot of parents don't want unapproved media to reach their kids. If something like this passes, it's going to be at least because of parental support.

In that case, they are free to take responsibility for the media their children have access to.

Re: Minnesota Wants to Ban Under-18s from User-Generated Content Services

#15
This would effectively ban minors from the Internet. And many walled gardens.

EDIT: There’s a case to be made for it! The Internet, especially social media, is as powerful as illicit drugs and probably impacts development. But IMHO, this should be up to parents to decide, and I think the lawmakers probably have no clue the extent of this kind of rule would be.

Re: Minnesota Wants to Ban Under-18s from User-Generated Content Services

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post #13

>The bill would eliminate minors’ access to any algorithmically generated navigation aids, such as “top content” and “hot items” lists. It would also eliminate home pages that are algorithmically organized, whether personalized to individual users or not, which would be replaced by a list of items presented chronologically (presumably in reverse chronological order if allowed because chronological order prioritizes t…

Genius! VPNs would get a lot more useful

Re: Minnesota Wants to Ban Under-18s from User-Generated Content Services

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of parents don't want unapproved media to reach their kids. If something like this passes, it's going to be at least because of parental support.

Funny thing is that I guarantee a lot of the parents in support of dumb shit like this lose their minds at sexual education classes in public schools. Just shows that most people don't have the IQ necessary to be competent parents.

Which do you prefer?

1) We should have school districts teaching _Republican_ ideals because the local schools support it.

2) We should have school districts teaching _Democrat_ ideals because the local schools support it.

3) No to both 1 and 2.

You simply can't have it both ways, therefore the reasonable option is to say no to both.

Re: Minnesota Wants to Ban Under-18s from User-Generated Content Services

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of parents don't want unapproved media to reach their kids. If something like this passes, it's going to be at least because of parental support.

Funny thing is that I guarantee a lot of the parents in support of dumb shit like this lose their minds at sexual education classes in public schools. Just shows that most people don't have the IQ necessary to be competent parents.

If you lose your mind about a sexual education class, I agree that's misguided, but saying they have a low IQ because of that? Maybe a low EQ if they can't control their emotions, but it's absurd to automatically equate emotions with intelligence. We've all acted stupidly because we've been emotionally invested in an idea. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous at best, and probably indicative of a low IQ at worst ;)

Anyways, lots of people and religions have wildly different ideas on the sanctity (or lack of sanctity) of sex. Some people don't like it when a public school decides to teach their child something different. Whether that's a school teaching that heterosexual monogamy is the one true way, or homosexualism or polygamy or whatever. People have very different opinions on this and that's OK.

Re: Minnesota Wants to Ban Under-18s from User-Generated Content Services

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Most technical adults I know are in some stage of trying to revert their internet usage back to the offerings this bill would allow through. The less than 1 million users careveout is HUGE— allowing for the power of small forums, federated socials, etc. seems like a great bill unless you’re trying to exploit young people.
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