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Re: I/O 2022

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Post by ben_w »

staunch wrote: post #43
sidibe wrote: post #37

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If you like to gush over exciting announcements there's still Musk. Unfortunately it's been many years since his company actually built anything he announces

It's not merely "gushing" to be excited about new technology breakthroughs. And Musk, through his companies, is actively delivering today on Starlink, Tesla, Dragon, and Starship to name a few big ones. This meme that he's "all talk" is easily disproved for any honest observer.

Yes, although: while the Starship project is incredibly impressive, it can’t really be said to have delivered until it’s actually reached orbit.

Until then, it’s like the stuff Boeing, Lockheed, ULA etc. have spent even longer developing and have also not reached orbit with.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by fizwhiz »

nostrademons wrote: post #77
Workaccount2 wrote: post #52

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https://careers.google.com/ , scroll down to "Spotlight", scroll over to "Data center roles" or "Staff Software Engineer", both pictures of white male talking to white female. Globally white people are about 10% of the population, so I'd expect 1 in 10 people in a representative sample to be white, which feels about right for much of Google's marketing material.

> both pictures of white male talking to white female.

white passing *

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by akomtu »

izzydata wrote: post #48
systemvoltage wrote: post #28

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I miss Steve Jobs era of keynotes. All keynotes are just so dull today. What went wrong?

Technology was advancing more rapidly so there were actually new and exciting things to show you. We seem to be hitting diminishing returns and most of the low hanging fruit and almost all the high hanging fruit problems that we have in our day to day lives have been solved that can be solved with a computer. Now since they have run out of problems to solve they are inventing problems so they can solve them.

Robotics is the obvious high hanging fruit: autonomous lawn movers and such. But nothing is going to happen when the best minds work on reshuffling some UI that's better be left alone.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by usrn »

nostrademons wrote: post #77
Workaccount2 wrote: post #52

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https://careers.google.com/ , scroll down to "Spotlight", scroll over to "Data center roles" or "Staff Software Engineer", both pictures of white male talking to white female. Globally white people are about 10% of the population, so I'd expect 1 in 10 people in a representative sample to be white, which feels about right for much of Google's marketing material.

Google is a US company though.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by ben_w »

adamrezich wrote: post #68
SemanticStrengh wrote: post #60

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So much hypocrisy going on. If fighting racism was the goal Unicode should not have added skin colored emojis. This is the dumbest move ever.

I will never understand why emoji, the whole point of which is to convey universal emotions (and other icons), ever needed skin tone modifiers at all. why do "thumbs up" and "thumbs up, but i'm white btw" need to be encoded differently? why is everyone OK with Native Americans and other ethnicities with reddish skin tones being excluded? just a complete mess top-to-bottom, and now we can basically never undo it. imag…

People like customising these things to be mini-avatars as a form of self expression. I don’t see a reason to get upset about this option existing — not even from the perspective of “oh no strings are even weirder, I can’t safely treat them as a stream of bytes all the time”, given that combining characters are needed for other stuff anyway.

(No idea why you think other skin tones can’t be added later).

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by jjcm »

valbaca wrote: post #19

Multiple mentions of "skin tone" and AI. Did they really mess up skin tone recognition that bad that they needed three different solutions to it? (I feel like I missed some major fuckup on their end) https://blog.google/products/assistant/assistant-io-2022/ https://blog.google/products/search/monk-skin-tone-scale/ https://blog.google/technology/research/ai-monk-scale-skin-t...

Random side note - I'm amazed they're using gifs here to show off their subtle color updates to skin tone.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by Daishiman »

babyshake wrote: post #24
valbaca wrote: post #19

Multiple mentions of "skin tone" and AI. Did they really mess up skin tone recognition that bad that they needed three different solutions to it? (I feel like I missed some major fuckup on their end) https://blog.google/products/assistant/assistant-io-2022/ https://blog.google/products/search/monk-skin-tone-scale/ https://blog.google/technology/research/ai-monk-scale-skin-t...

Their super bowl ad was also focused on fixing AI racism. There is surely a political and marketing aspect to this focus.

There is the objective fact that darker skin tones are harder for some AI algos to process due to lower contrast. There's also the fact that a lot of training data just didn't have people of darker skin, and that a couple of news article pointed out that some people were classified in object detection systems in a rather... racist way.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by [deleted] »

adamrezich wrote: post #68
SemanticStrengh wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So much hypocrisy going on. If fighting racism was the goal Unicode should not have added skin colored emojis. This is the dumbest move ever.

I will never understand why emoji, the whole point of which is to convey universal emotions (and other icons), ever needed skin tone modifiers at all. why do "thumbs up" and "thumbs up, but i'm white btw" need to be encoded differently? why is everyone OK with Native Americans and other ethnicities with reddish skin tones being excluded? just a complete mess top-to-bottom, and now we can basically never undo it. imag…

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Re: I/O 2022

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Post by daptaq »

drusepth wrote: post #89
rpmisms wrote: post #50

Pixel 6a dropped the headphone jack. Great. Gotta find another brand now.

Any recommendations? I've been holding off on upgrading my shattered-screen 3a for almost 6 months assuming I'd get the 6a when it released, so pretty much anything would be an upgrade at this point. I'm really just looking for a good camera, a headphone jack, and a good battery.

I'm considering to buy a Pixel 5a, seems like the last good phone. It seems there are good deals on Ebay.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by twelvechairs »

adamrezich wrote: post #68
SemanticStrengh wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So much hypocrisy going on. If fighting racism was the goal Unicode should not have added skin colored emojis. This is the dumbest move ever.

I will never understand why emoji, the whole point of which is to convey universal emotions (and other icons), ever needed skin tone modifiers at all. why do "thumbs up" and "thumbs up, but i'm white btw" need to be encoded differently? why is everyone OK with Native Americans and other ethnicities with reddish skin tones being excluded? just a complete mess top-to-bottom, and now we can basically never undo it. imag…

The default was yellow which basically represents white people.
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