It's just a misleading graph.
When old historic maps overlap with modern political maps
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Re: When old historic maps overlap with modern political maps
#42Quite funny, when I read the title before checking the link, I first thought exactly about Poland voting preferences. For anyone interested: the difference in voting exists, because the east part of Poland is less developed and more rural in general. I remember that it is so in part because of how the Russian occupation was mostly of “steal as much as we can” variety, especially compared to Germans. It is also one of…
The territory that today is western poland was part of Germany pre-1939. It wasn't an occupation, it was just that territory of that country. Afaik, most of what was eastern Poland pre-1939 and was occupied by the Russians, nowadays is no longer Polish territory. The boundaries migrated west.
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#43Great... Now do the Middle East. That one should be fun.
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's.. the seljuk turks
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#44Peeve: To cause to be annoyed or resentful. synonym: annoy. These are not pet peeves at all, they are the persons pet loves. All examples are a type of "look at this great example, designed not to annoy or cause resentment at all, just the opposite! Aren't they cool and amazing?"
Thank you. The overlays are enlightening, and I was confused by the title and the lack of negative commentary accompanying these maps.
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#45Peeve: To cause to be annoyed or resentful. synonym: annoy. These are not pet peeves at all, they are the persons pet loves. All examples are a type of "look at this great example, designed not to annoy or cause resentment at all, just the opposite! Aren't they cool and amazing?"
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#46I’m sceptical, it’s too easy to cherry-pick data to make it look supportive of one’s political agenda. Not saying it’s the case here, I just wouldn’t trust too much "obvious" patterns and easy to understand maps from a twitter thread. More often than not, such threads are omitting data that doesn’t support the view of the author. Reality is rarely obvious and simple.
It's more of a weak indirect correlation between historical map -> economic prosperity -> political preferences. The modern political maps for France, Germany, Portugal and Romania at least are essentially proxies for GDP per capita (not sure about the others).
One might add something to the front of your analysis, as maps don't form out of thin air. In fact, those lines on a map are formally called "political borders."
historical governance -> historical map & economic prosperity -> political preferences
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#47Something similar that I find both fascinating and heart-breakingly tragic: The "Black Belt" in the U.S. Deep South. The Black Belt is both a geological term used to refer to the rich & dark soil [0] and a geopolitical term to refer to the high percentage of African Americans [1]. During the Cretaceous period, the shore-line at the time ran through the middle of Alabama and Mississippi, depositing rich organic deposi…
Yep, this is cool, and it's mentioned in the thread!
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#48You can see the result of the 123-year partitioning of Poland on many maps, to the extent that it has become a meme: 1. the population of deer and boars: https://www.facebook.com/kartografiaekstremalna/photos/a.153... 2. the modern railway network: https://ziemianarozdrozu.pl/artykul/2861/mamy-%E2%80%9Enie-p... 3. the percentage of flats without a bathroom: https://www.miesiecznik.znak.com.pl/wp-content/uploads/2018/…
The partitioning of Poland or its « migration » to the West ? Because as far as I'm aware, the split is due to the Western part being formerly German (including its population) rather than the Polish people itself having been split. Polish people are welcome to correct me, I'm not too familiar with history in this region aside from the broad stokes.
Only parts were strictly German. And the German population was moved out to new borders, and Polish population from east (parts of current Ukraine, Belarussia and Latvia)
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#49You can see the result of the 123-year partitioning of Poland on many maps, to the extent that it has become a meme: 1. the population of deer and boars: https://www.facebook.com/kartografiaekstremalna/photos/a.153... 2. the modern railway network: https://ziemianarozdrozu.pl/artykul/2861/mamy-%E2%80%9Enie-p... 3. the percentage of flats without a bathroom: https://www.miesiecznik.znak.com.pl/wp-content/uploads/2018/…
The partitioning of Poland or its « migration » to the West ? Because as far as I'm aware, the split is due to the Western part being formerly German (including its population) rather than the Polish people itself having been split. Polish people are welcome to correct me, I'm not too familiar with history in this region aside from the broad stokes.
You are referring to the idea that some of these phenomena might not be due to the era of partitioning that ended in 1918 [1] but to the territorial changes after WW2 [2], in which people from former Eastern territories were relocated and mixed with the population of the "Regained Lands" in the West.
Interesting observation. It is hard to tell it apart, because it is the same line but different time.
I am no historian, so I shouldn't even try explaining. But for me, the "partitioning" explanation makes more sense, because during the communist time after WW2 there was a strong trend towards the unification of the country. If not for that, we would see even stronger divides at the other sides of the partition lines.
Re: When old historic maps overlap with modern political maps
#50Something similar that I find both fascinating and heart-breakingly tragic: The "Black Belt" in the U.S. Deep South. The Black Belt is both a geological term used to refer to the rich & dark soil [0] and a geopolitical term to refer to the high percentage of African Americans [1]. During the Cretaceous period, the shore-line at the time ran through the middle of Alabama and Mississippi, depositing rich organic deposi…
Yep, this is cool, and it's mentioned in the thread!
Oh! So it is!!! Oops, I didn't scroll down enough on the Twitter Thread to see! My bad - thank you!