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Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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Since coinbase isn’t FDIC insured, it makes sense that if coinbase goes bankrupt, the customer currencies will go away as well. And they aren’t SPIC insured in the situations where crypto is a security. It’s funny to see people shocked (SHOCKED!) when crypto doesn’t have the protections of regular banking and investments. That’s why you don’t invest with stuff that isn’t insured. Those aren’t real rates, they are ris…

> Since coinbase isn’t FDIC insured, it makes sense that if coinbase goes bankrupt, the customer currencies will go away as well. And they aren’t SPIC insured in the situations where crypto is a security. Is Coinbase "loaning" out the Bitcoin users have deposited in it? The reason banks need the FDIC is that they loan your deposits out instead of throwing it in a vault and sitting on it, so if they go under they don'…

I think your statement about the idea that Coinbase isn't living on the float about as likely as the notion that nobody in crypto is desperately trying to create a fiat currency fiefdom. As such, your views come across as the kind of statement that are illegal to distribute concerning regulated investment.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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post #2

Since coinbase isn’t FDIC insured, it makes sense that if coinbase goes bankrupt, the customer currencies will go away as well. And they aren’t SPIC insured in the situations where crypto is a security. It’s funny to see people shocked (SHOCKED!) when crypto doesn’t have the protections of regular banking and investments. That’s why you don’t invest with stuff that isn’t insured. Those aren’t real rates, they are ris…

> Since coinbase isn’t FDIC insured, it makes sense that if coinbase goes bankrupt, the customer currencies will go away as well. And they aren’t SPIC insured in the situations where crypto is a security. Is Coinbase "loaning" out the Bitcoin users have deposited in it? The reason banks need the FDIC is that they loan your deposits out instead of throwing it in a vault and sitting on it, so if they go under they don'…

No, but the users would be last in liquidation preference, so would end up screwed anyways.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

#204

Can anyone tell me how to set up a wallet on my Mac in order to get my coins off coinbase. Is there any clear guide on how to do that. Every link on Google seems to be spam or downloading potentially malicious software. It's very fustrating because so many people seem to know how to set up a wallet on their computer/Mac however I cannot for the life of me find a clear wallet to download and move my funds to or a guid…

Jaxx has been in the local wallet business for a long time. Mac and mobile.

https://jaxx.io/

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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> Since coinbase isn’t FDIC insured, it makes sense that if coinbase goes bankrupt, the customer currencies will go away as well. And they aren’t SPIC insured in the situations where crypto is a security. Is Coinbase "loaning" out the Bitcoin users have deposited in it? The reason banks need the FDIC is that they loan your deposits out instead of throwing it in a vault and sitting on it, so if they go under they don'…

No, but the users would be last in liquidation preference, so would end up screwed anyways.

> No, but the users would be last in liquidation preference, so would end up screwed anyways.

Cite please, because if true that would be mind-boggling.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Since coinbase isn’t FDIC insured, it makes sense that if coinbase goes bankrupt, the customer currencies will go away as well. And they aren’t SPIC insured in the situations where crypto is a security. Is Coinbase "loaning" out the Bitcoin users have deposited in it? The reason banks need the FDIC is that they loan your deposits out instead of throwing it in a vault and sitting on it, so if they go under they don'…

I think your statement about the idea that Coinbase isn't living on the float about as likely as the notion that nobody in crypto is desperately trying to create a fiat currency fiefdom. As such, your views come across as the kind of statement that are illegal to distribute concerning regulated investment.

> As such, your views come across as the kind of statement that are illegal to distribute concerning regulated investment.

What kind of nonsense is that? I'm just some rando on the internet.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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post #2

Since coinbase isn’t FDIC insured, it makes sense that if coinbase goes bankrupt, the customer currencies will go away as well. And they aren’t SPIC insured in the situations where crypto is a security. It’s funny to see people shocked (SHOCKED!) when crypto doesn’t have the protections of regular banking and investments. That’s why you don’t invest with stuff that isn’t insured. Those aren’t real rates, they are ris…

> Since coinbase isn’t FDIC insured, it makes sense that if coinbase goes bankrupt, the customer currencies will go away as well. And they aren’t SPIC insured in the situations where crypto is a security. Is Coinbase "loaning" out the Bitcoin users have deposited in it? The reason banks need the FDIC is that they loan your deposits out instead of throwing it in a vault and sitting on it, so if they go under they don'…

While I agree making a bad loan is the most likely reason for a bank to lose deposits, I wouldn't go so far as to call it "the" reason.

Robbery, embezzlement, or natural disaster [1] can also result in loss of funds that would be covered by FDIC, and those risks exist for cryptocurrency too, albeit in somewhat different forms.

[1]: see this paper, which found that "disaster damages play a significant role in bank failures": https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2506710

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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I have been trying, unsuccessfully for 2 years to validate my account on Coinbase. I have over 100k in ETH stored in their wallet, have the highest levels of access to their services but CANNOT trade because they have NO HUMANS available. Their systems DO NOT work and there is NO contact info nor any way to actually reach a person.

So I have been trading with others and will never use CB for anything but cold storage. (Which they're great at)...

The company is the worst I have ever dealt with. There is no way to interact with a person. So if something does happen, you have NO RECOURSE.

Based on my experience, they will be bankrupt. This is a certainty. You cannot have a financial entity that has ZERO human interaction or service. No trust, none at all...

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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If you only hold bitcoin that wallet would work, another popular one is electrum. If you want to store multiple coins in one application then Exodus or Atomic would be two good choices. You're looking for a non-custodial wallet and as always, protect your keys to protect your coins, you are the bank at this point.

It's just bitcoin I'm storing, is that one I've linked to above a non-custodial wallet or a custodial wallet?

A custodial wallet. The original custodial wallet, in fact.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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post #107

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Ok here are some actual quotes then: "We have no risk of bankruptcy" - objectively false statement "it is possible, however unlikely, that a court would decide to consider customer assets as part of the company in bankruptcy proceedings" - goes against the entire point of his thread, and is also exactly why this disclosure was required The quote above seems like a completely accurate and fair characterization.

> "We have no risk of bankruptcy" Isn't that a statement that the SEC should fine them for?

If he just said that, then probably. In context of the thread it’s clear to me that he means there isn’t a risk eminent bankruptcy.
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