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Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by sitzkrieg »

antihero wrote: post #139
sitzkrieg wrote: post #129

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honestly as someone who played it for about 6 years at the peak fun time to play it, its a lot more fun to read about than actually play

Honestly for me it was the emergent meta gaming that made it for me. Sitting on a gate at 4AM with someone (tolon) playing guitar over TeamSpeak and getting drunk af and despite having sixth form the next day. Sneaking into another halls at uni to cover a BoB guy’s door with bees I’d cut out and printed (we became friends over this!)

i indeed flew with dbrb and had many gate drinking nights. but i realized the game was irrelevant at some point

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by sitzkrieg »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #136
sitzkrieg wrote: post #129

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honestly as someone who played it for about 6 years at the peak fun time to play it, its a lot more fun to read about than actually play

I love the idea of the game. I love the mechanics of it, such as permanent loss of your ship. It means there's always a demand for crafting. I also really like the hands-off approach the devs/admins/etc take to what happens in game. But...the gameplay is just boring as hell. This video sums it up: https://youtu.be/4c6jafaiPh8?t=65

the modern counter to this would be juicy targets (freighters, starter ships full of plex etc) afk/unaware in 1.0 getting popped by jihad destroyer fleets. but it was a good meme people who didnt explore what the game offered liked to perpetuate

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by jesterman »

gabereiser wrote: post #144
LanceH wrote: post #125

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The terror of someone else showing up in a system you thought was empty while you're carrying something super valuable.

Eye on local, yes, especially in WH space... man oh man, anxiety through the roof.

Don’t keep your eye on local in WH space, that won’t work! Eyes on DSCAN, I quit Eve almost a year ago, and the key I used for DSCAN still doesn’t work, I’ve pressed it so many times.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by jesterman »

ethbr0 wrote: post #19
TheaomBen wrote: post #15

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I actually got into software/systems engineering working on internal software for "minor" player groups in EVE. The level of integration[0] those orgs had 10+ years ago outranks 80% of my current real-world clients in terms of discoverability, documentation and depth. I mean that's what you get from a bunch of eve-playing nerds committing to a labor of love. Best projects I've ever had. [0] Real time updating mining…

Also, the combination of (mostly) player-run economy + substantial no-consequence PvP zones + large player organizations seems to attract a different sort of person. There are still your average gamers, but EVE had a much more adept playerbase (in terms of real world skills) than any other MMORPG I've played.

As the saying goes: “When an Eve Player quits Eve and moves to Wow, the average IQ of both games goes up”. Incredible game, took up far to much of my time.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by vkou »

martincmartin wrote: post #52

What are some other games where spreadsheets help? I'll start: - Kerbal Space Program. Figuring out the sizes of different stages, how many solid boosters to add, etc. - Factorio. Ratios of different factories, mostly for creating science packs. - Cookie Clicker. Figuring out what to buy to get the best marginal cookies per dollar.

Most MMOs 'benefit' from spreadsheets and APIs. Any situation where players are incentivised to optimize/track/gather statistics benefit from them.

Guild Wars 2 is an example of a very casual MMO that nevertheless has an extensive API, and a wide range of fan-built sites that use it to optimize/track history of trades, manage your account, track achievement histories, improve wiki information, etc.

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Post by wccrawford »

user_7832 wrote: post #128
pjc50 wrote: post #74

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Anything stat-heavy. Genshin Optimizer: https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/ for example; the game has no data export at all, so there's an OCR program you can run that screenshots your inventory for analysis.

Slightly tangential but do you still play Genshin Impact? I used to play for a while before I realized how terrible it was for my mental health and fortunately stopped.

As with most Gacha games, the gacha portion of that was so poorly designed for casual players that it was basically poison.

I really, really liked the gameplay and the exploration, and to a point, even the plot.

But the gacha was absolutely murder for me. I couldn't talk myself into spending a single cent on it. And I say that as someone who probably spent over $500 on a single gacha game over a couple years.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by colanderman »

martincmartin wrote: post #52

What are some other games where spreadsheets help? I'll start: - Kerbal Space Program. Figuring out the sizes of different stages, how many solid boosters to add, etc. - Factorio. Ratios of different factories, mostly for creating science packs. - Cookie Clicker. Figuring out what to buy to get the best marginal cookies per dollar.

Dwarf Fortress famously has Dwarf Therapist: https://github.com/Dwarf-Therapist/Dwarf-Therapist

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by notreallyserio »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #167
HPsquared wrote: post #142

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It's a stressful game, some enjoy the stress. Now that I'm employed, not so much.

If you stick to 1.0-sec space, it's not stressful at all. But instead, it's boring because there's next to zero risk, and also no reward. You can mine low-value ores while AFK, or go ratting and have boringly easy encounters.

Other than Jita I agree. Don't try to move too much money through Jita or bot accounts will pod ya with no (effective) repercussions.

Or if not pod you at least destroy your ship and steal all your stuff.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by carlosdp »

apeace wrote: post #102
carlosdp wrote: post #82

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Yes, but "Eve is a spreadsheet MMO" is a meme, so this title is more creative and funny to those that know the meme, driving them to the article.

It's not clickbaity or misleading at all, though. Eve has an official partnership with Microsoft to make an Excel integration, and the fans literally cheered it during the fanfest. I don't understand what's clickbaity or misleading in the slightest.

I didn't say it was? I think the meme is hilarious, I love Eve and have played it since childhood.

I was just explaining why the title would be more attractive to anyone who follows Eve.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Post by outworlder »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #136
sitzkrieg wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

honestly as someone who played it for about 6 years at the peak fun time to play it, its a lot more fun to read about than actually play

I love the idea of the game. I love the mechanics of it, such as permanent loss of your ship. It means there's always a demand for crafting. I also really like the hands-off approach the devs/admins/etc take to what happens in game. But...the gameplay is just boring as hell. This video sums it up: https://youtu.be/4c6jafaiPh8?t=65

> But...the gameplay is just boring as hell.

Depends on what you are doing. The first time you manage to escape with your ship intact after an incursion in low security or (specially) Null sec space, you get hooked. Or when you do the same, but in wormhole space.

If you are doing missions or participating in alliance shenanigans... yeah. Lots of mindless button pushing. At that point, trading in the market is more fun.

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