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Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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If by fun you mean spreadsheets.

Some of the spreadsheet guys just need bodies flying stuff so they can spend more time on the spreadsheets. During my peak Eve time around 10 years ago (I no longer play), I had left spreadsheets behind and was using full on databases to keep track of things and identify opportunities in the market and manufacturing.

Congrats for also winning Eve

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Anyone on here plays this game? Is it worth it? Dropping everything in life for that one perfect game will always be a temptation... ;)

The answer is highly variable and depends on what you want out of a game. In my opinion, it is essentially the pinnacle of the MMO genre, largely because the economy and content are all player driven, which is what in my opinion makes it continually relevant and fascinating while also very inaccessible to most people. It is interesting and appealing to a large number of people in the abstract, but of that group only a small number will be able to get much enjoyment out of playing it.

I do wish we could get more games in a similar vein. I wonder if there is an opportunity out there for an MMO that lives somewhere in between the hardcore player driven sandbox of Eve and the more common, mainstream theme-park MMOs like WoW, if such a game is even possible.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Anyone on here plays this game? Is it worth it? Dropping everything in life for that one perfect game will always be a temptation... ;)

I'm a current player, and I think it's absolutely worth it to get started. Other comments have covered many aspects of the game, so I'll just point one thing out: the players are super friendly! It's funny because Eve is a game where you can -- and WILL -- get destroyed by anyone, any time. It's dog-eat-dog, it's cut-throat, it's merciless. I remember the first time I lost a 250m ISK Astero to a hunter. The cost was…

He played the meta game. Get more new players to play more and longer gives him more and bigger targets later. The same reason I wouldn't totally whoop my friends at smash brothers back in the day. If you just barely win, you may win more games, because newbies aren't discouraged.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Eve Online is continually fascinating to me. People basically have jobs playing that game. It's bewildering to me. I tried playing Eve Online once. I think it took me quite a while to get through the initial setup, and then I was just placed in space. I had no idea what was going on, and then someone took me out.

Eve Online is the real Metaverse

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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"Is there a good alternative? No." Check out Astrox Imperium . It's been described as "Eve Offline". It's made by just one developer, but it's really impressive for that. I've never played Eve myself, so I can't personally say how they compare, but I enjoyed the hell out of AI . (PS: I have no association with AI . I'm just a very satisfied fan.)

Unfortunately, there's no comparison. AI doesn't come close to the breath of Eve. It's cool. It's a good game especially for a solo-dev (very impressive!) but Eve Online has so many avenues to gameplay.

The terror of someone else showing up in a system you thought was empty while you're carrying something super valuable.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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What are some other games where spreadsheets help? I'll start: - Kerbal Space Program. Figuring out the sizes of different stages, how many solid boosters to add, etc. - Factorio. Ratios of different factories, mostly for creating science packs. - Cookie Clicker. Figuring out what to buy to get the best marginal cookies per dollar.

Dark Souls and friends, with the help of soulsplanner.com, eg https://soulsplanner.com/darksouls/weaponatk

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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What are some other games where spreadsheets help? I'll start: - Kerbal Space Program. Figuring out the sizes of different stages, how many solid boosters to add, etc. - Factorio. Ratios of different factories, mostly for creating science packs. - Cookie Clicker. Figuring out what to buy to get the best marginal cookies per dollar.

Anything stat-heavy. Genshin Optimizer: https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/ for example; the game has no data export at all, so there's an OCR program you can run that screenshots your inventory for analysis.

Slightly tangential but do you still play Genshin Impact? I used to play for a while before I realized how terrible it was for my mental health and fortunately stopped.

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Eve is the greatest game to read about that I have almost no interest in ever playing. I'm glad it exists.

honestly as someone who played it for about 6 years at the peak fun time to play it, its a lot more fun to read about than actually play

Re: Eve Online fans cheer Microsoft Excel features at annual Fanfest

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Anyone on here plays this game? Is it worth it? Dropping everything in life for that one perfect game will always be a temptation... ;)

Don't bother. EVE used to be absolutely great (community-wise, gameplay-wise the game always was more "lipstick on a pig"-like), but these days it's just a shadow of what it once was.

By continually dumbing the game down to "make it more accessible", the constant lying by the devs and them going back on their words and it more and more becoming a microtransaction hellhole, CCP managed to destroy the one single thing that made EVE successful: The community.

I greatly enjoyed the decade and a half I played it (beta until 2018'ish), but truth be told, it's only ever been going downhill pretty much since the Incarna expansion with 60$ monocles (2011).

CCP fucked their loyal player base over and over and over again until most of us simply didn't want to take it anymore. The playerbase these days mostly consists of bots and instant gratification people expecting everything on a silver platter, constantly whining if they don't get what they want, only to inevitably leave again after 3-6 months even if they do get what they want.

I remember my first decade in EVE with great fondness and made some terrific friends there. Regarding the 5 years that followed, I seriously regret not quitting sooner. I'm still somewhat active in the EVE forums, though. After all, that's where the real PvP happens. ;)

- A very bitter vet

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