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No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

#291
Bookmark your subscription page and accept that your discovery process will have to not rely on YT's algorithms. They are not designed for your expedience. Also turn off auto play.

A big part of their algorithm is keeping you on the site longer. It does this by showing you many low quality suggestions (because most people will sift through and consume them) before getting to the higher quality videos. Then, just before you were about to leave, they show something likely to keep you there. After being rewarded with a good video people often stick around hoping that they'll find another similar quality video. It hardly matters if this is a learned behavior or a hand crafted algorithm.

They are not interested in learning what videos you like. They're interested learning what will keep you there longer. If this is a learned behavior then pretty much the only way to train the algorithm is to tune out more often.

This is not a system that favors quality content. It favors ad views. This is an ad network. Even if you pay to hide the ads, you still get treated this way. Even if you pay for it, content creators still get treated like shit if they don't produce ad friendly content. Ads are the boss, not you.

I have, in my subscription list, creators that I watch 100% of their content without exception going back years. If left to YT suggestions I'll see that content weeks after release. You must use the subscription page to see content in a timely manor. This is demonstratively so.

My subscription page grows pretty much because I'm tipped off about good content from sources off YouTube or callouts/collaborations from creators I follow.

I don't know how much longer we'll have the subscription page since it directly subverts the malgorithm. You may need to rely on an external tool soon. Remember, you're not the boss despite "you" being in the branding.

Also, even good creators are resorting to click bait in a "if you can't beat them" bid. Yes, the algorithm is having a negative impact on quality. There's not much you can do to fix it. The best you can hope to do is side step the permanent problem. Look me up next year before you call my pessimism misplaced.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…

Is this guy making income from doing this? I may have to re-evaluate my career if I can pay my rent by mostly just dumping random internet content into a video.

TikTok and instagram are filled with get rich quick schemes that say to do exactly this. Go here for stock video and go here for AI video editing and you’ll have passive income. Look how much I made last month! Look how when you search for calm music I am the top 20 results!

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Is this guy making income from doing this? I may have to re-evaluate my career if I can pay my rent by mostly just dumping random internet content into a video.

Probably not all that much. He gets about a million views a month, which makes him something in the order of $1000/month[1]. [1]: https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCPF-oYb2-xN5FbCXy01...

I mean $1000/month is pretty good considering he has to do nothing besides keep his script running.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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post #237

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Is this guy making income from doing this? I may have to re-evaluate my career if I can pay my rent by mostly just dumping random internet content into a video.

One month of work to build an automation pipeline. $50/mo revenue. still need a real job

You need one month for this?

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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There's a "don't recommend channel" option if you click the 3 dots button on a video. I use this liberally for all sorts of reasons and it makes my recommendations much better.

I have done it a lot for around a year, but i think than the block list is very limited, because after a will the same "blocked" channels come back again in the list. I have now stopped to use this fake feature. I am sure of it because i regularly block official news or music channels, but they appear again anyway after a wile. It's the same for the "not interested" feature. I have stop to tell them, when asked, why…

Sounds familiar, my post from 7 months ago:

"I would love to see someone look deep into Twitch recommendation system - last time I tested the thing they call "Feedback" is a rolling buffer and wont let you exclude more than ~100 things, adding more simply removed oldest entries and starts spamming you with things you already excluded in the past. This looked like performance optimization (less things to track per user)."

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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If he’s disseminating and distributing solutions I don’t see the problem with it other than jealousy. It’s helpful and helps prevent information rot if a platform goes down.

How is littering yt and screwing with recommendations helpful?

I don't care for what he's doing or his business, but youtube is to blame for recommending him. Also, I just click don't recommend and it works every time my kid takes over the machine to binge watch the entire minecraft community.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

#298
I get a lot of these like subtitled clip videos these days where the subtitles are large and in the middle of the screen for emphasis on what is being said.

They must be generated by an AI or something because the subtitles are almost always subtly wrong, often in ways that indicate the listener didn’t understand the joke or what was being said. Either that or it’s on purpose to generate comments/engagement, because most of the comments are always about how the subtitles are wrong.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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There's a "don't recommend channel" option if you click the 3 dots button on a video. I use this liberally for all sorts of reasons and it makes my recommendations much better.

I have been using it most recently to shield myself from an avalanche of Depp and Heard trial clips seemingly created to support Depp.

Random jordan peterson clips were the worst. Once it started, it took months to die out despite me clicking don't recommend several dozens of times.
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