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Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by brador »

hbbio wrote: post #200
alexb_ wrote: post #105

I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…

Obviously, the guy is just ripping StackOverflow. His "latest" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtqJq0OF8eA Is a poorly generated copy/paste of: https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/1644... Probably a tiny Python script. Google is prompt to ban other accounts, hope some Googlers around here can can do something...

If he’s disseminating and distributing solutions I don’t see the problem with it other than jealousy.

It’s helpful and helps prevent information rot if a platform goes down.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by gigaflop »

fxtentacle wrote: post #115

Let's all take a moment to reflect on how much worse we (the software developers) have made this by building (essentially automated spam) tools like https://www.synthesia.io/ For example, their "Lays Messi" ad campaign had 650 million video variations available in 8 languages.... I predict that in a year, the majority of internet videos will not only be random stock 4K videos, but they will be overlay-ed with AI avat…

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: Space Ghost Coast to Coast is probably the best example of what this could end up as. Old animations recycled to match voice lines.

Given advanced enough AI, the process could definitely be automated to turn a written script into a short video.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by im3w1l »

Ensorceled wrote: post #207

I feel like every recommendation engine has tanked in 2022 along with a matching upswing in ads. Audible is aggressively recommending an audiobook I already bought and listened to, it's even in their "your year so far" list because I listened to it in January. Their 2-for-1, annual, special offer emails are coming 2-3 a week now. My Facebook timeline is full of crappy "Suggested for you" entries. I doom scrolled last…

Having more and more ads sounds like an end of market cycle thing. Like when there are no more billions of untapped users, but you have to show revenue growth, so you crank up the ads to an unsustainable number and sneak towards the exit before it all comes tumbling down.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by corobo »

brador wrote: post #281
hbbio wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously, the guy is just ripping StackOverflow. His "latest" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtqJq0OF8eA Is a poorly generated copy/paste of: https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/1644... Probably a tiny Python script. Google is prompt to ban other accounts, hope some Googlers around here can can do something...

If he’s disseminating and distributing solutions I don’t see the problem with it other than jealousy. It’s helpful and helps prevent information rot if a platform goes down.

For me at least the main problem isn't so much this person/channel, you can always tell YouTube to stop suggesting a channel. It's the people that now realise this is something YouTube allows (or at least doesn't seem to care about).

For a similar issue there was a plague of "Reply girls" for a while https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_girl

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by Gareth321 »

plaguepilled wrote: post #239

In accounting you sometimes hear that it is near-impossible to liquidate Goodwill, but given the implied increase in (malicious) advertiser spending from this move, I would say that's exactly what's happened. Shame in YouTube for their cavalier attitude. There needs to be some actual consequences to Google when one of their products is noticeably downgraded like this. But, alas, there are no worthy competitors. Vimeo…

>But, alas, there are no worthy competitors.

I honestly think Odysee is really good. Not quite as polished as YouTube, but it definitely does the job. It's just missing all the same content creators, but more are joining every day. Rumble is another decent competitors but I find it not quite as competent an option as Odysee.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

I recently deliberately tried to make an effort to stop visiting YT to check on new videos, and started using RSS. I'm using liferea and so far it's been fantastic. Just navigate to channels you like, copy the URL, click on "New subscription" in liferea, and paste. Done.

I still get to see suggested videos whenever I watch something that comes up in liferea in an external browser, so I'm not totally disconnected from YT's recommendation engine. But I'm no longer either (a) using YT's totally in-browser notification system for new videos from channels I care about or (b) scrolling for hours looking for new videos from channels I care about.

Works well for me.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by bitcharmer »

brador wrote: post #281
hbbio wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously, the guy is just ripping StackOverflow. His "latest" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtqJq0OF8eA Is a poorly generated copy/paste of: https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/1644... Probably a tiny Python script. Google is prompt to ban other accounts, hope some Googlers around here can can do something...

If he’s disseminating and distributing solutions I don’t see the problem with it other than jealousy. It’s helpful and helps prevent information rot if a platform goes down.

How is littering yt and screwing with recommendations helpful?

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by smaryjerry »

miniwark wrote: post #257
FartyMcFarter wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a "don't recommend channel" option if you click the 3 dots button on a video. I use this liberally for all sorts of reasons and it makes my recommendations much better.

I have done it a lot for around a year, but i think than the block list is very limited, because after a will the same "blocked" channels come back again in the list. I have now stopped to use this fake feature. I am sure of it because i regularly block official news or music channels, but they appear again anyway after a wile. It's the same for the "not interested" feature. I have stop to tell them, when asked, why…

I am convinced the not interested button does absolutely nothing.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by Const-me »

alexb_ wrote: post #267
mrkramer wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had some similar ideas but YouTube can just block it or cut API access. But would they dare? Antitrust lawsuit is glooming over them.

Telling someone they can't use your service is not anti-competitive.

It’s totally fine when the service in question is not a natural monopoly.

Youtube is a natural monopoly now, just like residential water and electricity suppliers. Too bad it’s not yet regulated as such.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by wasmitnetzen »

the_only_law wrote: post #224
alexb_ wrote: post #105

I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…

Is this guy making income from doing this? I may have to re-evaluate my career if I can pay my rent by mostly just dumping random internet content into a video.

Probably not all that much. He gets about a million views a month, which makes him something in the order of $1000/month[1].

[1]: https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCPF-oYb2-xN5FbCXy01...

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