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I’m particularly sad to see Cloudflare’s stock having plummeted. Out of all the tech companies that IPO’d in the past few years, Cloudflare is one that the most potential to excel long term. Developer sentiment towards Cloudflare is comparable to Apple fanboys of the previous decade, and their products are legitimately good, backed with tangible assets (datacenters). They also have consistent growth quarter over quar…

I know nothing about NET other than the 30seconds I just spent looking at their financials - they managed to triple their revenue over three years but they seemed to have managed to about triple their losses over the same time period and they trade at ~30x sales, MSFT is ~11x, guess people believe they’ll be earning a ~$2b/year in the next several years?

I hated a long time on AMZN too. Regretted it. NET looks similar to me, albeit it won’t be taking over 30% of the economy of course.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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I’m particularly sad to see Cloudflare’s stock having plummeted. Out of all the tech companies that IPO’d in the past few years, Cloudflare is one that the most potential to excel long term. Developer sentiment towards Cloudflare is comparable to Apple fanboys of the previous decade, and their products are legitimately good, backed with tangible assets (datacenters). They also have consistent growth quarter over quar…

Uh, correction: I'm pretty sure Cloudflare doesn't own any datacenters. They lease space in other people's data centers

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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P/E is back. Funny how irrational exuberance is seen as a normal market and a return to fundamentals is a financial crisis.

This is a delightfully succinct way to put it, going to steal this one!

The phrase "irrational exuberance" is sprinkled throughout John Bogle's book, Don't Count On It. (At least I think I'm remembering that correctly. But some Google brought up Alan Greenspan as using the phrase a lot.)

If you don't recognize the name, he founded Vanguard and the first index fund.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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Same. I've also bought Affirm, Shopify, Netflix, Peloton and Roblox in addition to Coinbase since they've all dropped ~70-90% in the last 6 months. I agree they were overvalued, but we seem to be in overreaction territory now. Even if we haven't seen the bottom yet, I think we'll see a lot of upside in these over the next 2-5 years.

Netflix really seems like a loser to me. Every production company has a streaming service now, and most make better content than Netflix. Sure Netflix’s app might be better, but it’s also twice as expensive as every other service. I guess that Netflix’s “replace basic cable” package might work for people who only want one service, but from what I remember most people did not especially like basic cable. Wouldn’t be s…

Agreed. Netflix’s only option at this point is to merge with a large IP holder meaning Paramount (formerly ViacomCBS).

Netflix was not as aggressive as they needed to be in locking down must-see brands to 1) keep subscribers or 2) better negotiate with the content players.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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Cloudflare is down 71% in that same period. Zoom is down 60%. Speculative pandemic tech darlings are no longer darlings and are being hammered across the board. It's going to be a rough time for anyone who had high hopes for their equity compensation.

Good time to change jobs and lock in a strike price?

I did that in 2008 by going to Salesforce. It worked out really well. Highly recommend.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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Is netflix really aiming to “replace basic cable”? Seems more like replace hbo and a couple of random other channels. The price is outrageous, but I feel like we are getting to the point where market penetration involves business deals where a fraction of the sub is covered by someone else (carrier, credit card, etc).

Look at the number of shows they produce compared to other services. On mobile so not going to link, but easy enough to find. Pretty clear to me that their strategy is to have a show for everyone’s favorite niche. Compare that to HBO where the strategy is to create shows that are actually good. 90% of Netflix is crap, and that’s not to say they don’t make good shows, they just make so many bad ones.

They're also kinda the Google of TV in my mind too at this point

No point getting into a Netflix original, it won't make it to s02

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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Hasn't exactly been a fun time for any growth stocks.

You don't want a very fun time generally, that's merely when you sell and realize your profit.

You want some brutal, unrelenting misery with extreme bearish selling. That's when you strike your claim, that's when most of the future returns are set - that's the beautiful buy point. You don't get rich chasing and buying markets ever higher, you get rich buying cheap while everybody else is busy running for cover, and then you sell back to them when they come back to pay N times what you did (and whether it takes six months or six years is irrelevant so long as the return is good enough).

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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Worth recalling there are >5 rate hikes priced in for the remainder of the year, and that the problem with CloudFlare isn't just the speculation, but for their legitimate business, the credit fuelling many of their customers, which are significantly concentrated in the tech sector. The coming tightening of hiring will also inevitably mean the tightening of infrastructure budgets. What built CloudFlare's excellent sal…

> I think we'll discover before the end of this year just how many of the tech darlings were largely side effects of the poisonous sandbox constructed by the US fed ?? Poisonous sandbox? Is this an awkward way of referring to money printing? Or the low interest rate environment?

It warms my heart to think I could still be graded on language use so late in life. How would you describe it?

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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As a russian I like coinbase. It promotes crypto, which makes my world warmer.

I was about to make a joke about nuclear teapots powering cryptominers with their excess heat, but then realised this might be a legit idea: nuclear waste, that nobody knows what to do with, could be used to power asics mining bitcoins.
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