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Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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I’m particularly sad to see Cloudflare’s stock having plummeted. Out of all the tech companies that IPO’d in the past few years, Cloudflare is one that the most potential to excel long term. Developer sentiment towards Cloudflare is comparable to Apple fanboys of the previous decade, and their products are legitimately good, backed with tangible assets (datacenters). They also have consistent growth quarter over quar…

It's a great time to buy more

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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I’m particularly sad to see Cloudflare’s stock having plummeted. Out of all the tech companies that IPO’d in the past few years, Cloudflare is one that the most potential to excel long term. Developer sentiment towards Cloudflare is comparable to Apple fanboys of the previous decade, and their products are legitimately good, backed with tangible assets (datacenters). They also have consistent growth quarter over quar…

> Developer sentiment towards Cloudflare is comparable to Apple fanboys of the previous decade I consciously stay out of negative threads about Cloudflare because I feel way too attached to them.

Are you engaging in a CF thread here?

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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Don’t try to catch a falling knife.

Catchy phrase, but what is actually wrong with dollar cost averaging through a downturn? It seems to be the only effective way to invest for the long term.

(Disclaimer that I own some NET so I don't necessarily believe this is the case for them but also am probably biased). You can't really know it's a downturn until it ends and pops back up. Otherwise it's just their downfall. If a stock is going to just drop and continue dropping until bankruptcy, or plateau forever at a low point, then cutting your losses early would be better. But no one can really be sure which way a stock is going to go in the long-term. If you believe the dip is just a temporary thing and end up being correct then yeah it's a good play. If you end up being wrong it's just a slow way to lose money.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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I’m particularly sad to see Cloudflare’s stock having plummeted. Out of all the tech companies that IPO’d in the past few years, Cloudflare is one that the most potential to excel long term. Developer sentiment towards Cloudflare is comparable to Apple fanboys of the previous decade, and their products are legitimately good, backed with tangible assets (datacenters). They also have consistent growth quarter over quar…

I bought at the peak for cloudflare and had a similar thought process.

After losing 15-20%, I decided to sell. Figured I'd buy again after it dropped further. Guessing when it's 80-90% down from peak I'll end up repurchasing.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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Same. I've also bought Affirm, Shopify, Netflix, Peloton and Roblox in addition to Coinbase since they've all dropped ~70-90% in the last 6 months. I agree they were overvalued, but we seem to be in overreaction territory now. Even if we haven't seen the bottom yet, I think we'll see a lot of upside in these over the next 2-5 years.

Netflix really seems like a loser to me. Every production company has a streaming service now, and most make better content than Netflix. Sure Netflix’s app might be better, but it’s also twice as expensive as every other service. I guess that Netflix’s “replace basic cable” package might work for people who only want one service, but from what I remember most people did not especially like basic cable. Wouldn’t be s…

Is netflix really aiming to “replace basic cable”? Seems more like replace hbo and a couple of random other channels. The price is outrageous, but I feel like we are getting to the point where market penetration involves business deals where a fraction of the sub is covered by someone else (carrier, credit card, etc).

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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I remember the "dotcom crash" of 2000, after which all of the scuttlebutt was about how the internet was a fad and all the related investments were just a giant bubble. The rhetoric I'm hearing today about crypto is strangely reminiscent. How it will turn out, nobody knows, but humility is warranted if history is any guide.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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So I'm a crypto non-believer. I see it as the ultimate solution looking for a problem. But that doesn't apply to Coinbase because, at its core, Coinbase should be a transactional business that is a proxy for the size of the crypto market (or, more specifically, the crypto trading volume). I don't know enough about the financials of Coinbase however. It could be they have risks unrelated to their transaction business.…

They make money from people transacting. Every buy or sell on their platform nets them a commission so their total revenue is directly proportional to how frothy the market is feeling.

A major crash like we’ve been seeing in both the traditional market and crypto space means there is less money coming in, less money moving around, and less fees for Coinbase. And with a persistent recession you’re not going to see people coming back in for a while.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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I think you answered your own question there: Google is down 25%, Coinbase is down 3x that at 75%.

Google is in the S&P500.

And? That’s not solace to anyone who owns COIN and could’ve bought GOOG instead.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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Netflix really seems like a loser to me. Every production company has a streaming service now, and most make better content than Netflix. Sure Netflix’s app might be better, but it’s also twice as expensive as every other service. I guess that Netflix’s “replace basic cable” package might work for people who only want one service, but from what I remember most people did not especially like basic cable. Wouldn’t be s…

Is netflix really aiming to “replace basic cable”? Seems more like replace hbo and a couple of random other channels. The price is outrageous, but I feel like we are getting to the point where market penetration involves business deals where a fraction of the sub is covered by someone else (carrier, credit card, etc).

Look at the number of shows they produce compared to other services. On mobile so not going to link, but easy enough to find. Pretty clear to me that their strategy is to have a show for everyone’s favorite niche. Compare that to HBO where the strategy is to create shows that are actually good. 90% of Netflix is crap, and that’s not to say they don’t make good shows, they just make so many bad ones.

Re: Coinbase stock lost over 75% value

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I’m particularly sad to see Cloudflare’s stock having plummeted. Out of all the tech companies that IPO’d in the past few years, Cloudflare is one that the most potential to excel long term. Developer sentiment towards Cloudflare is comparable to Apple fanboys of the previous decade, and their products are legitimately good, backed with tangible assets (datacenters). They also have consistent growth quarter over quar…

$212M quarterly revenue with a $41M loss. In this climate you better have a solid PE as a public company or you’re in deep shit. This is the second dot-com bust. I worked at eToys for the first. $6B market cap and was delisted. Assets sold off for $2M when liquidated. Make no mistake about how bad things are about to get.

eToys sold physical products with gross margins that are hilariously very different from Cloudflare's.

https://a16z.com/2015/05/15/a16z-podcast-why-saas-revenue-is...

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