Is there anything HNers feel more passionately about than remote work?
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Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work
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> We deserve to have input into how we work best and if that means walking away from companies run by egomaniacs that need to see butts in seats, then so be it. The logical conclusion of this line of thinking is to organize your coworkers. You have much more bargaining power about your work conditions as an organized union. The history of unionization stems primarily from workers demanding safe working environments.
Unions are for poor people. This person can be much more self righteous by quitting for another 6 figure paycheck. Very little risk.
Besides SAG-AFTRA, lawyers and doctors also have unions and it's essentially the only reason they're highly respected, since they've psyched everyone into thinking they're rare and valuable by making themselves rare.
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They were running Apple to the ground in the 80s and then kicked Steve Jobs out in 1985. Jobs starter Next which was acquired by Apple in 1997, bringing Jobs back home. Hence gp’s comment about Apple’s long history of doing this…
I'm not sure doing it once counts as a tradition or long history, but zinger I guess.
"Since 1985!"
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#324Here’s to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes… the ones who see things differently — they’re not fond of rules… You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can’t do is ignore them because they change things… they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the on…
In a talk Craig Federighi gave, he said some of his most inventive work was done remotely with his NeXT Cube in a cabin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43sjym5ZS68&t=677s .
The story about porting OS X to Intel revolves around working from home: https://www.quora.com/How-does-Apple-keep-secrets-so-well/an...
Re: Apple's director of machine learning resigns due to return to office work
#325Some people are extremely sensitive to the issue of the remote work, like it is some kind of inalienable right, and any (perceived) threat to it makes them want to grab a pitchfork and proteat. I don't get it. Things are simple. The employer sets the terms, where you work and how the work is paid. The employee either accepts the terms or walks away. Sometimes the sides engage in negotiations, where the side with more…
I think there's a few obvious responses to your comment. First of which is that switching jobs is not as easy as you make it sound, even in the tech industry. There's still a lot of effort that must be put into interviewing and it takes quite a few weeks unless you get lucky. It becomes even more difficult when you need arrangements due to a disability, visa sponsorship, future maternity/paternity leave, etc. Second,…
I totally get that but come on.. if you can get into FANG you literally don’t have any job security fears. Don’t mention edge cases that may affect a few people but for the vast majority? Please.. the most pampered group of workers in tech. I would understand if this was non tech, and I’m not familiar with outside of US, but this is a non issue.
Btw speaking as a full time remote employee.
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Yeah, I could probably get +50% if I went job hopping, but the non salary benefits are very good, work is not stressful-- 40 hours, rarely the expectations of more than that, though it does happen maybe one a month. Very good PTO, 5 minute commute... So it's all an extremely good work life balance, which has always been the most of mportant factor for me if the money is otherwise sufficient to cover things.
I get paid very well for 36 hour weeks (half-day Fridays) in a low stress atmosphere with no expectation of over time. All I'm saying is that there is no harm looking around as there are plenty of jobs like that out there.
I work 20 hours a week now, fully remote, making (a little bit) more than I used to doing 40. Granted, it's a machine learning gig and I took the pandemic to brush up on these skills, but it's definitely achievable in this market to have a good work/life balance.
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That makes you management buddy, so saddle up and don't forget your helmet.
Not-so-subtle threats of violence. Another reason not to like labor unions.
People should really stop with the hyperbole. It makes people not take you seriously and ruins the message, even if valid.
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By putting the former head of Pepsi in charge, letting him push out Jobs, and then putting the company in such a dire financial situation that when they rehired Jobs, he had to go to Microsoft for a bailout.
Jobs hired that guy to be CEO.
Jobs hired Sculley as CEO, then disagreed with him, attempted to have the board kick him out, instead had the board turn against Jobs himself, was stripped of his roles, and quit.
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Say, for sake of argument, that I'm the World's Greatest Widget Engineer. I'm worth more than the average employee at my company, so I can get stuff I want by negotiating individually with my employer. On the other hand, if a union imposes some broad agreement on the company under threat of strikes, I can't convince my company to break that agreement on my own because I'm not more valuable than the entire rest of the…
> A union's interests are probably not completely aligned with mine Sure, but the company's interests are almost completely opposed to yours in most ways. It's _possible_ for you to be worse off in a union, but rare.
> Sure, but the company's interests are almost completely opposed to yours in most ways.
You do know that your employment depends on the success of the business, right?
The relationship with an employee is no more adversarial than your relationship with the local grocery store when you buy a bag of potatoes.
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The office is where the very expensive labs are. For at least parts of Apple engineering, very expensive equipment and prototypes are under lockdown and too expensive to duplicate for WFH. (at least that's how it was during my several years there.)
>The office is where the very expensive labs are. I know right. I mean to be able to test his his AI algorithms, instead of just walking into the supercomputer room with a briefcase full of punchcards he would either have to make a long distance trip or else FedEx in his punchcards(and expose Apple to the risk of losing them or having them leak). Sorry, this is 2022 and we have high speed Internet and networked compu…
Does your snark apply if he was working on development hardware for upcoming "Neural Engine" in a lab?