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Kids just shouldn't have phones with data plans.
What phones don’t have data plans? Also that’s going to mean they can’t use useful stuff like iMessage.
Text messages exist
UK telecom EE blocks archive.org
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Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org
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I’m sure these services exist in every country. I don’t see the problem if they’re opt-in.
They pass the initial law as opt-in. That allows them to fund the initial infrastructure. Then they make it out-out. The change doesn’t get much attention because the funding is already in place and “ think of the children ”. Then they add political thought crimes to the filters. Then they make it so you can’t opt-out.
Seems to me like this is more of a law problem rather than a company problem.
Here we have a telecom service provider law, which states, among other things:
ARTICLE 57. - Network neutrality. Prohibitions. Service Providers shall not:
a) Block, interfere, discriminate, hinder, degrade or restrict the use, sending, reception, offering or access to any content, application, service or protocol except by court order or explicit request of the user.
Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org
#53Looking into this a bit more, this seems like a classic case of “much ado about nothing.” The situation as I understand it: 1. A UK telecom company, EE, has an optional (!!) parental control feature, which blocks websites based on a user-selected threshold [0] 2. Archive.org was added to this block-list. This makes sense at first glance: as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favo…
weird they are blaming the UK for this also, it's one company with a particular product offering.
Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org
#54Looking into this a bit more, this seems like a classic case of “much ado about nothing.” The situation as I understand it: 1. A UK telecom company, EE, has an optional (!!) parental control feature, which blocks websites based on a user-selected threshold [0] 2. Archive.org was added to this block-list. This makes sense at first glance: as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favo…
It's enabled by default, actually, but otherwise about right. https://www.blocked.org.uk/ is a useful resource on this front.
Unsure about "enabled by default". I don't think I've ever been offered (explicitly) a parental for my home ISP (not EE) that I opted out of. Archive.org isnt blocked on my home internet.
Archive.org is also available on my EE phone (when using mobile connection) - it's possibly I explicitly opted out of parental control filter, but I don't think I have. I'm less sure about that.
Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org
#55Looking into this a bit more, this seems like a classic case of “much ado about nothing.” The situation as I understand it: 1. A UK telecom company, EE, has an optional (!!) parental control feature, which blocks websites based on a user-selected threshold [0] 2. Archive.org was added to this block-list. This makes sense at first glance: as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favo…
> [...] as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favorite porn website.
And then, what? You get the content and you consider that problematic?
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#57Although I use wayback machine infrequently (1-2 times per week), I hold it's one of the most important websites in existence - up there with wikipedia - it's the digital equivalent of a famous museum. I do wish there was a wayback machine for youtube videos, because of all the now dead links in my technical and personal notes. I suspect the cost of hosting video is too high.
I wish they had a more robust mirroring system. Along with some type of peer-to-peer hosting/resource-sharing, sort of like a folding@home setup.
Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org
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It's enabled by default, actually, but otherwise about right. https://www.blocked.org.uk/ is a useful resource on this front.
Unsure about "enabled by default". I don't think I've ever been offered (explicitly) a parental for my home ISP (not EE) that I opted out of. Archive.org isnt blocked on my home internet. Archive.org is also available on my EE phone (when using mobile connection) - it's possibly I explicitly opted out of parental control filter, but I don't think I have. I'm less sure about that.
GiffGaff's is enabled by default. I hate the way they (all) phrase it too, like you can disable it if you want to access 'bad stuff' - no, I just want not to be told what I can and can't access, 'no filter', one less place for anti-privacy logging potential etc.
Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org
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> This makes sense at first glance: as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favorite porn website. If this is their reasoning, then it's silly to me. With this logic every search engine should be blocked! Even with all their domain blacklisting simply searching for adult content on google images will yield millions of results. Probably more than archive.org :) I think this is an ho…
The difference is that search engines will generally redirect to the external website while archive.org lets you browse the page on their domain. As an added exercise, maybe try translate.google.com to see if it's blocked as well.
I'm sure they mean the thumbnail images you can browse in Google's domain.
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Why not?
For the same reason they shouldn't have firearms. People shouldn't let their kids be unsupervised with even a very useful item where the risk is high and they haven't yet developed the self-control to use it wisely. Eventually you have to let go, but that transition time is critical.
Jason is correct. Techonology outpaces parents ability to police it in the majority of cases.