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Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

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Post by dlivingston »

Looking into this a bit more, this seems like a classic case of “much ado about nothing.”

The situation as I understand it:

1. A UK telecom company, EE, has an optional (!!) parental control feature, which blocks websites based on a user-selected threshold [0]

2. Archive.org was added to this block-list. This makes sense at first glance: as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favorite porn website.

3. This is all user-controllable and is disabled by default.

Yeah, assuming I have my facts right, this seems like a big, fat, nothing burger. Please correct me if I’ve misanalysed.

[0] : https://ee.co.uk/help/help-new/safety-and-security/content-l...

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

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Post by MichaelApproved »

baisq wrote: post #9
mrtksn wrote: post #5

I’m just sad to watch the world following Turkey’s steps on Internet control. These ISP level “security filters” have been a thing in Turkey since 2011. They are optional but they always try to trick people into enabling them. There’s even safe internet day(5th February), they send you an SMS with a link to instantly enable filters to celebrate internet safety day. What I find weird though, not all sites are blocked…

I’m sure these services exist in every country. I don’t see the problem if they’re opt-in.

They pass the initial law as opt-in. That allows them to fund the initial infrastructure.

Then they make it out-out. The change doesn’t get much attention because the funding is already in place and “think of the children”.

Then they add political thought crimes to the filters.

Then they make it so you can’t opt-out.

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#23

Post by Sevan777 »

archive.org is still blocked by 2 mobile telcos https://www.blocked.org.uk/site/http://archive.org It was blocked by more around 2019, including by Three. Had to do the same dance to get restrictions lifted so that I could visit a library, then the rep offered me a special deal on increasing my monthly data transfer quota "for streaming videos". Despite an "unrestricted" account, I still cannot connect to tor bridges and telegram (according to OONI tests https://ooni.org/)

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#24

Post by callamdelaney »

dlivingston wrote: post #21

Looking into this a bit more, this seems like a classic case of “much ado about nothing.” The situation as I understand it: 1. A UK telecom company, EE, has an optional (!!) parental control feature, which blocks websites based on a user-selected threshold [0] 2. Archive.org was added to this block-list. This makes sense at first glance: as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favo…

Kids just shouldn't have phones with data plans.

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#25

Post by ixfo »

dlivingston wrote: post #21

Looking into this a bit more, this seems like a classic case of “much ado about nothing.” The situation as I understand it: 1. A UK telecom company, EE, has an optional (!!) parental control feature, which blocks websites based on a user-selected threshold [0] 2. Archive.org was added to this block-list. This makes sense at first glance: as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favo…

It's enabled by default, actually, but otherwise about right.

https://www.blocked.org.uk/ is a useful resource on this front.

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#26

Post by wumpus »

mattwad wrote: post #17
wumpus wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was a child, I was allowed to go into the adult library. In a conservative, Southern US state. It's a shame to see the UK being more right wing than the most conservative parts of the US.

I don't think they are burning books

Censorship is more complicated than "people who burn books" and "people who do not burn books".

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#27

Post by easytiger »

mattwad wrote: post #17
wumpus wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was a child, I was allowed to go into the adult library. In a conservative, Southern US state. It's a shame to see the UK being more right wing than the most conservative parts of the US.

I don't think they are burning books

One doesn't need to burn books, when then can just be caused to no longer exist

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#28

Post by kiwijamo »

dlivingston wrote: post #21

Looking into this a bit more, this seems like a classic case of “much ado about nothing.” The situation as I understand it: 1. A UK telecom company, EE, has an optional (!!) parental control feature, which blocks websites based on a user-selected threshold [0] 2. Archive.org was added to this block-list. This makes sense at first glance: as an exercise to the reader, go to archive.org and type in the URL of your favo…

It's enabled by default on my EE SIM.

Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

#29

Post by StireFarter »

wumpus wrote: post #14
IanCal wrote: post #6

This is not really new. Iirc the requirement agreed with the government was that users would have an active choice for filtering or not, which I think is required for mobile connections. This is an age gated thing essentially, and can be removed at the request of the user (or never added). Age rated things require some ID I think. That archive.org, a place to archive essentially any content , gets flagged as potentia…

When I was a child, I was allowed to go into the adult library. In a conservative, Southern US state. It's a shame to see the UK being more right wing than the most conservative parts of the US.

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Re: UK telecom EE blocks archive.org

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Post by gerdesj »

archive.org blocked by EE yawn

EE is a mobile operator and not very important in the grand scheme of things when it comes to decisions about morality.

They obviously also have dropped the ball - silly ISP.

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