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Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll

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Re: Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll

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Is it still designed to mow down pedestrians? https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a15344706/self-driving-mer... Mercedes ethics: Save the people who can afford lawyers.

Although it's pretty clear you don't care about an answer to your question - it's only designed to operate on highways.

Re: Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're making a pretty big leap there from "our experimental self-driving mode only works inside the geofence" to "the government won't let you drive where you want".

Yes, a huge leap. I can't possibly imagine that government would pass legislation that all the automakers would comply with. /s https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/biden-infrastructure-bil... "Deep within the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act that was signed into law by President Joe Biden is a passage that will require automakers to begin including what can be best summarized as a “vehicle kill switch” within t…

I'm being downvoted - but this is the reality of what will happen. Who wants that sort of monitoring when they are driving?

Is this a consumer-driven feature? Or is this more government management - leveraging technology to micro-manage every detail of our lives - only allowing good citizens travel privileges etc?

We are sleep walking into a dystopia, and I get downvoted for stating the obvious! Seriously - your government is about managing you, saying what you are and aren't allowed to do, extracting taxes, fines and licensing fees from you - its not there to help!

PS I was being downvoted, but now I'm back up... It was right what I wrote it!

Re: Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll

#43
post #29

"it's geofenced to certain roads, and only work under 40mph", " you should not use this in the rain" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMNnOosjrBo&ab_channel=Engad...

I wonder if 40mph is a magic number that is a good tradeoff between speed and survivability (and injury-related out-of-court settlements)

Has to do with the limitations of radar. Radar will fail >40mph for stopped vehicles or detect them too late to stop. Honda and Tesla are working to remove radars and go vision only for speed control.

If you have a car with a AEB or CMBS (automatic emergency braking, crash mitigation braking system) the owners manual has a ton of fine print about it only making crashes less severe, not preventing them outright.

Re: Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll

#45
post #29

"it's geofenced to certain roads, and only work under 40mph", " you should not use this in the rain" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMNnOosjrBo&ab_channel=Engad...

I wonder if 40mph is a magic number that is a good tradeoff between speed and survivability (and injury-related out-of-court settlements)

I imagine there are a couple reasons that boil down at some point to kinetic energy. Stopping distance goes up pretty quickly, there's a huge difference between, say, 40mph and 60mph.

Re: Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll

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post #29

"it's geofenced to certain roads, and only work under 40mph", " you should not use this in the rain" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMNnOosjrBo&ab_channel=Engad...

I wonder if 40mph is a magic number that is a good tradeoff between speed and survivability (and injury-related out-of-court settlements)

That threshold is generally considered to be 20mph. Below that speed pedestrian injuries are unlikely to be fatal.

It's what urban speed limits are in Sweden, and they average about one pedestrian death a year in the entire country.

Re: Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Geofenced" That's the word. That's the plan. We will be geofenced, there will be a kill switch. You will not be able to go where you want, except if the government allows it. In fact, I think Uber is the best example of geofencing we have for the long run. In the medium term, self-driving cars you still own will fill the gap.

You're making a pretty big leap there from "our experimental self-driving mode only works inside the geofence" to "the government won't let you drive where you want".

No post body was provided.

Re: Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, a huge leap. I can't possibly imagine that government would pass legislation that all the automakers would comply with. /s https://www.musclecarsandtrucks.com/biden-infrastructure-bil... "Deep within the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act that was signed into law by President Joe Biden is a passage that will require automakers to begin including what can be best summarized as a “vehicle kill switch” within t…

I'm being downvoted - but this is the reality of what will happen. Who wants that sort of monitoring when they are driving? Is this a consumer-driven feature? Or is this more government management - leveraging technology to micro-manage every detail of our lives - only allowing good citizens travel privileges etc? We are sleep walking into a dystopia, and I get downvoted for stating the obvious! Seriously - your gove…

Maybe some people just agree with this?

(a) Findings.--Congress finds that--

            (1) alcohol-impaired driving fatalities represent 
        approximately \1/3\ of all highway fatalities in the United 
        States each year;


            (2) in 2019, there were 10,142 alcohol-impaired driving 
        fatalities in the United States involving drivers with a blood 
        alcohol concentration level of .08 or higher, and 68 percent of 
        the crashes that resulted in those fatalities involved a driver 
        with a blood alcohol concentration level of .15 or higher;
          

  (3) the estimated economic cost for alcohol-impaired driving 
        in 2010 was $44,000,000,000;



            (4) according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, 
        advanced drunk and impaired driving prevention technology can 
        prevent more than 9,400 alcohol-impaired driving fatalities 
        annually; and


            (5) to ensure the prevention of alcohol-impaired driving 
        fatalities, advanced drunk and impaired driving prevention 
        technology must be standard equipment in all new passenger motor 
        vehicles.



    (b) Definitions.--In this section:
            (1) Advanced drunk and impaired driving prevention 
        technology.--The term ``advanced drunk and impaired driving 
        prevention technology'' means a system that--
                    (A) can--
                          (i) passively monitor the performance of a 
                      driver of a motor vehicle to accurately identify 
                      whether that driver may be impaired; and
                          (ii) prevent or limit motor vehicle operation 
                      if an impairment is detected;
                    (B) can--
[[Page 135 STAT. 832]]

                          (i) passively and accurately detect whether 
                      the blood alcohol concentration of a driver of a 
                      motor vehicle is equal to or greater than the 
                      blood alcohol concentration described in section 
                      163(a) of title 23, United States Code; and
                          (ii) prevent or limit motor vehicle operation 
                      if a blood alcohol concentration above the legal 
                      limit is detected; or
                    (C) is a combination of systems described in 
                subparagraphs (A) and (B).

Re: Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll

#50

"it's geofenced to certain roads, and only work under 40mph", " you should not use this in the rain" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMNnOosjrBo&ab_channel=Engad...

Restrictions that very much make sense given the usage scenario; Stop and go traffic on highways.
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