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Re: Netflix’s big power clash and rivalries behind the crash

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Post by nickjj » Fri, May 06, 2022, 12:27 PM UTC

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ijidak wrote: post #262

Can someone tell me what the 94% match in Netflix means? I don't understand what in the world XX% match is all about. My biggest complaint about Netflix is there is no simple 5-star rating. Or something like that. I'm not going to watch a trash movie that is a XX% match to some bogus criteria. Even if that match is 100%. Thus, unlike Prime, I explore very little with Netflix. I manually look up the rating in IMDb bef…

Roughly, people who liked movies you liked, also liked that movie. If you like Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark, but you haven't seen Ghostbusters, and 94% of people who have seen all three movies and liked the first two also liked Ghostbusters, then it's 94% likely that you'll also like Ghostbusters. I'm sure it's much more complicated and nuanced, but that's the general idea.

I've never liked a single video on Netflix and I've had them for a number of years. I think with no direct likes the rating system starts at 99% and might also take your viewing history into account to adjust it over time based on third party likes from people who watched similar movies to you. I'll often see a bunch of new Netflix original movies come up with 95-99% matches as soon as they're released but then over time they drop to 64% and eventually never come up again.

I wish it started at 0% and worked its way up because the current implementation is really misleading. It's trying to get me to watch something because it's a Netflix original they want to push but really their plan backfired and now I don't watch any Netflix originals unless I know for sure I want to watch it beforehand.

Re: Netflix’s big power clash and rivalries behind the crash

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Post by atombender » Fri, May 06, 2022, 12:30 PM UTC

flukus wrote: post #162

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Just suffered through their Three Mile Island "documentary" yesterday while working on something else. Apparently Bechtel operates a hit squad in Pennsylvania and everyone in a 5 mile radius got severe cancer. Out of four hours you get about 10 minutes of meaningful detail about the incident; the rest is headline rehash you can get on the first page of a Google search, emotional personal stories and a lot of self pro…

> Out of four hours you get about 10 minutes of meaningful detail about the incident Most documentaries have always been very low on information density. Even universally loved ones like something from David Attenborough are mostly a collection of disconnected (yet amazing) film snippets with a bit of commentary over the top. It's only gotten worse as narrative has become more of the focus. There are exceptions, but…

I want more historical documentaries like BBC's amazing The Death of Yugoslavia [1], a minute-by-minute breakdown of the collapse of Yugoslavia and subsequent civil war. It tackles a complex subject in a refreshingly dispassionate and informative way.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Yugoslavia

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Post by atombender » Fri, May 06, 2022, 12:42 PM UTC

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I like Stranger Things and the Chef’s Table series is wonderful. Castlevania is good. I don’t want to defend Netflix though, lots of crap too.

I like it, but Chef's Table uses "that one simple trick" 5x an episode where 18th century orchestral music is overlaid in a montage using all the available camera and editing tricks, showing someone literally is just making a cookie.

Chef's Table is mostly just food porn overlaid with chefs potentially musing about freshness of ingredients. It has nothing insightful to say about running a restaurant, about making food, or anything else. Which is a shame, because I think a more naturalistic, less pretentious view into the daily workings of restaurants could make for a nice show.

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Post by Spivak » Fri, May 06, 2022, 12:56 PM UTC

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Oh come on, are you really going to look up data about populations expecting it to be low, and then because it doesn’t conform to your world view make up some reason why it must be wrong? And the point about Gen Z is that this is where we’re heading. Millennials are 10% lgbt and growing, Gen Z is around lgbt 20% and growing. My all time favorite concert was Girl in Red who sold out a 5000 person venue in less than 30…

Good concert!?

Look, I like music and just used it as an example of something that simply couldn’t happen two generations ago. The idea that artists like her can sell out shows in every city to a fanbase of queer women used to be unheard of.

If you want a less niche example my hometown’s pride used to be less than 1000 people in the 80’s and now is half a million.

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Post by solarhoma » Fri, May 06, 2022, 1:35 PM UTC

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How is being woke related to a desire to part of a group or garner sympathy by playing the victim?

Being part of the lgbt crowd is still cast as being part of an oppressed group. Therefore garnering attention or victim status.

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Post by DoneWithAllThat » Fri, May 06, 2022, 1:40 PM UTC

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I was surprised how hard it was to find nature documentaries that mostly showed nature and animals and not talking heads very concerned about the planet. I'm all aboard but it wasn't what I wanted to show my 1.5 year-old. I wanted her to see cool animals. This was across a few platforms, had to really dig.

I would also like to see a Nike documentary that focuses on the cool shoes and doesn’t mention anything about the child labor used to make them. Not covering a recant and pertinent fact is also an agenda.

What would be the agenda of, say, talking about birds while not mentioning climate doomerism constantly? Is there some bird lobby we should be aware of?

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Post by swivelmaster » Fri, May 06, 2022, 1:44 PM UTC

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This has been studied for decades. The number of people who have had some kind of sexual experience with the opposite sex is far higher than many expect. I recommend doing some more reading on this subject before coming to the (ridiculous) conclusion that people are claiming to be bisexual because they somehow enjoy feeling oppressed. https://kinseyinstitute.org/research/publications/historical...

Actually, if you go to /r/teenagers many teens complain that LGBTQ+ has become a mark of status such that teens who proclaim loudest their bonafides as trans/bi/whatever are those who reap status. Teenagers have always pushed against the prevailing narrative, it's how we get new ideas into the world. It becomes problematic when viral vectors of trends are disseminated at the speed of thought globally. Humans aren't h…

I get your point but I’m unclear how the last bit ties in. Can you elaborate?

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Post by solarhoma » Fri, May 06, 2022, 1:46 PM UTC

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20-40 years turnaround in a civilization is anything but slow in my opinion.

A lot can happen in 20-40 years, and has happened in 20-40 years throughout history. Industrial Revolution, being a prime example. We've also become far more interconnected in the last 20 years, which plays a large part - whereas before people may have kept quiet because they thought they were the odd one out they now know they aren't.

I do not agree that the industrial revolution is equivalent to changing sexuality within a society.

I could agree that modern technology and the industrial revolution are very similar. But even with that it has taken 60+yrs for our society to have a computer in the majority of homes after the Manchester Baby was created (and I think this change happened extremely quickly). And, analog and electromechanical computers go back even further. So, again, I think even these things have been a very gradual change happening over many decades once the leading technology was invented.

To further expand on my thoughts, to imply everyone was using ‘industrial revolution’ technology overnight would be heresy. I’m sure it took factories many decades to build and retrofit equipment including a technology run up to the revolution itself. With this said, you peaked my interest in this area and I have some researching to do this weekend.

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Post by maicro » Fri, May 06, 2022, 1:50 PM UTC

boredumb wrote: post #72

A pile of mid tier content that i'd flick through before exiting out after an episode Automatic previews Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on Horrible comedians that were akin to ted talks/lectures or made for people who don't actually enjoy stand up comedy. Documentaries that were more ideological than interesting Signing and hiring ex politicians Searching is a chore and recomme…

So the rest of the reply chain here is...certainly something. I won't comment on most of the points, but I will just point out - you can now disable automatic previews; I believe it's in your profile settings.

As for whether Netflix is still worth it...I honestly don't know, might need to discuss with my family.

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Post by WalterBright » Fri, May 06, 2022, 1:55 PM UTC

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There's only so many times you can rewatch The Office and Friends. It can't be a major ongoing revenue source. > brainwash This has been going on forever. Check out "The Brady Bunch". Every episode revolves around a heavy-handed moral lesson. Go back even further and you've got the Hayes Code. Hollywood has always seen itself as morally superior to the rest of us, and hence entitled to preach to us. Though with all t…

You'd be surprised (or not). Personally I find it utterly bizarre but a few people I know literally do just watch the office and friends on a loop. Quality (UK) Vs quantity (US) eh.

Bizarre, true. When I want moving wallpaper, I'll put on a "cab ride" from yootoob.