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Netflix’s big power clash and rivalries behind the crash

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Post by dazc »

asdff wrote: post #219
qq66 wrote: post #214

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Netflix had great streaming tech years before anyone else did. I wonder why they decided that the right move was to compete on content. If they had just set up a platform where any content provider could sell their content (on a monthly or one-off basis) for a small cut like 15%, they might have become the default "TV store."

They had to. Consumers don't care about streaming tech; in their eyes all the services are the same levels of fine. They do care about content and once content producers started rolling their own streaming services, cutting Netflix out, and pulling their content, they had to do something to keep their shelves looking stocked.

> Consumers don't care about streaming tech..

You haven't tried All4 then? Even a paid subscription will not save you from random freeze and adverts.

https://www.channel4.com/

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Post by adastra22 »

esrauch wrote: post #169
colinmhayes wrote: post #127

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> Documentaries that were more ideological than interesting I can not stand how every "documentary" on netflix is actually an extremely opinionated political piece or true crime. And I usually agree with the political opinion, it's just incredibly annoying and divisive, and really it mostly feels dishonest.

I feel this is just true for every non-Ken Burns documentary I've ever seen and I find it kind of annoying. They always seem to have some axe to grind and just do anything they can to support that biased thesis with no room for caveats or shades of gray.

BBC documentaries are really high quality and not so biased as American documentaries.

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Post by _Algernon_ »

boredumb wrote: post #72

A pile of mid tier content that i'd flick through before exiting out after an episode Automatic previews Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on Horrible comedians that were akin to ted talks/lectures or made for people who don't actually enjoy stand up comedy. Documentaries that were more ideological than interesting Signing and hiring ex politicians Searching is a chore and recomme…

Only good (original) thing coming out of NF is the first season of House of Cards and Bojack Horseman. Definitely never been worth a monthly subscription.

CMV

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Post by mgh2 »

abvdasker wrote: post #171
mgh2 wrote: post #102

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It is a crash because the stock tumbled far below pre-pandemic to 2017 levels, with still more bad news to come...

What's the bad news to come?

Mmm...assuming current stock price already includes forward outlook of 2M additional loss of subscribers this quarter (-200k past quarter), but momentum is usually sticky https://www.ft.com/content/c3b63a57-0d46-41c7-8f6b-c61d388db...

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Post by read_if_gay_ »

dillondoyle wrote: post #146
spanktheuser wrote: post #129

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It's telling that the comments calling out people complaining about representation are all greyed out. Sorry. HN has been surprisingly me lately in the viewpoints people are willing to say out loud on a public forum. or at least minimally a few vocal commenters. IDK if it's just feeling empowered not to hide anymore or perhaps progress we've made is creating stronger 'protective' reactions. It's scary though.

> HN has been surprisingly me lately in the viewpoints people are willing to say out loud on a public forum. or at least minimally a few vocal commenters.

Me too, except I conclude that HN has finally managed to somewhat pull their heads out of their asses.

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #304
boredumb wrote: post #72

A pile of mid tier content that i'd flick through before exiting out after an episode Automatic previews Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on Horrible comedians that were akin to ted talks/lectures or made for people who don't actually enjoy stand up comedy. Documentaries that were more ideological than interesting Signing and hiring ex politicians Searching is a chore and recomme…

Only good (original) thing coming out of NF is the first season of House of Cards and Bojack Horseman. Definitely never been worth a monthly subscription. CMV

I like Stranger Things and the Chef’s Table series is wonderful. Castlevania is good.

I don’t want to defend Netflix though, lots of crap too.

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Post by alickz »

xenator wrote: post #295
WalterBright wrote: post #137

Netflix is always recommending to me the same shows, day after day, week after week. I've passed over them many times. When will Netflix give up on them show me something further back in their catalog? This seems like a no-brainer to me. I get bored with scroll scroll scroll to look past them.

Probably you are more enjoy scrolling than watching. I realized it for myself when I bought a lot of games but never "have time or mood" to actually play them. Sometimes this also happens to content on Netflix. I don't have enough cognitive power to process another setting or just not feel entertained by a show in the middle of it. Lucky I have my wife and sometimes follow her recommendation because she is so excited…

> I realized it for myself when I bought a lot of games but never "have time or mood" to actually play them.

When this happens to me consistently it is nearly always depression killing my desire. Although it's never obvious in the moment that's the case, it just feels like I'm not in the mood.

Obviously I don't know anything about you or your situation, but if you're consistently not in the mood for things you used to enjoy it's worth considering if you're depressed (or burned out as you said). Depression is not always obvious when you're in the middle of it, and it's not always "woe is me I want to die".

Of course could be many other things in your situation you would know better than I, your comment just reminded me of myself and I wanted to share my experience with it.

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Post by sandworm101 »

flukus wrote: post #162
topspin wrote: post #148

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Just suffered through their Three Mile Island "documentary" yesterday while working on something else. Apparently Bechtel operates a hit squad in Pennsylvania and everyone in a 5 mile radius got severe cancer. Out of four hours you get about 10 minutes of meaningful detail about the incident; the rest is headline rehash you can get on the first page of a Google search, emotional personal stories and a lot of self pro…

> Out of four hours you get about 10 minutes of meaningful detail about the incident Most documentaries have always been very low on information density. Even universally loved ones like something from David Attenborough are mostly a collection of disconnected (yet amazing) film snippets with a bit of commentary over the top. It's only gotten worse as narrative has become more of the focus. There are exceptions, but…

>> Most documentaries have always been very low on information density.

Except everything done by the BBC. I am so sick of slow-paced american docs that inevitably swing into conspiracy rants and crying interviews. If there is a BBC doc availible on a subject, that is the one i will risk my hour of free time watching.

I too watched the 3 Mile Island netflix thing. The only fact i trust is the coincidence of The China Syndrome hitting theaters the week prior the accident, and only after i verified through imdb.

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Post by ngc248 »

WalterBright wrote: post #134
rchaud wrote: post #122

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The implication being that anything outside of the anodyne mainstream of cable TV must be a concerted effort to brainwash the public. Netflix has many problems, the big ones being that they lost old shows like The Office and Friends, which hurts retention. And they also kill off promising new shows after 2 seasons to save money on renegotiating cast contracts. If you read comment sections however, you'll get a very d…

There's only so many times you can rewatch The Office and Friends. It can't be a major ongoing revenue source. > brainwash This has been going on forever. Check out "The Brady Bunch". Every episode revolves around a heavy-handed moral lesson. Go back even further and you've got the Hayes Code. Hollywood has always seen itself as morally superior to the rest of us, and hence entitled to preach to us. Though with all t…

>>> Though with all the scandals emanating from Hollywood, one wonders how they hold on to that moral superiority

They all seem to have their own personal Reality Distortion fields

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