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Netflix’s big power clash and rivalries behind the crash

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Can this really be classified as a "crash"? They're a 20+ year old company, a hugely successful business, and likely to continue to be a major player in both entertainment & tech for the next decade+. Perpetual high growth is a fantasy.

It is a crash because the stock tumbled far below pre-pandemic to 2017 levels, with still more bad news to come...

What's the bad news to come?

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> Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on :( I know this is a tangent but it’s always sad to see representation treated as inherently political. Like this is the first time in my life I’ve ever seen mainstream shows portray wlw relationships. Or shows portray the reality of how common and casual sexual assault is. Or characters that that struggle with depression as more than just an…

It becomes a problem though when shows are catering to what 1% (or less) of the population looks like or is diagnosed with. This is what people are getting upset with. Representation is fine. But when every new show you turn on has half of the cast as a trans person, a non-binary person, and a whatever else it gets old. It gets old when historical shows and films have distorted facts or figures to, again, fill some q…

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They considered the kiss in your face too at the time. As was Ellen’s episode when she came out. Even more recently there was an uproar about “wokeness” when they decided to cast a Black woman to play an orange alien from Tamaran on Titans. Strangely enough, there was not such an uproar about lily White shows like Friends and Seinfeild.

You’re comparing a reaction to something that was common but only recently televised to something that’s extremely uncommon and over-represented in their programming 20x compared with reality.

I think you underestimate how much things have changed to make that claim: it wasn't until 1996 that the majority of Americans approved of interracial marriage. Below 20% of Americans approved of it when the Star Trek kiss aired.

A larger percentage of Republicans support transgender rights today than Americans supported interracial marriage when in 1969. More Americans support transgender rights today than supported it 20 years after the Trek kiss aired.

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It becomes a problem though when shows are catering to what 1% (or less) of the population looks like or is diagnosed with. This is what people are getting upset with. Representation is fine. But when every new show you turn on has half of the cast as a trans person, a non-binary person, and a whatever else it gets old. It gets old when historical shows and films have distorted facts or figures to, again, fill some q…

Gen-z identifies as 20% queer. Each new generation is more willing/able to live their truth. Wouldn't surprise me if we land somewhere around 25-30%. In large part thanks to representation in shows and movies. The us is rapidly diversifying too in terms of race, yet still even more under represented in media. Glaad says only ~10% queer characters on broadcast, and was a decline from previous study. Specifically compa…

Is it truth or is it being force fed down children’s throats? How can the Western world go from a ~2% homosexuality rate to 20% in two generations? It appears we both have a different perspective on how we got here.

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On a web browser, go to https://www.netflix.com/settings/playback/ You can disable autoplay of previews, and you can disable autoplay of the next episode in a series.

The most egregious is that there's still no setting to prevent skipping the credits. It's so distracting when you finish a movie or series and instead of having some time to reflect on it, you get served an ad for some of their other show.

This seems to be awful trend in general. I often like to see the credits usually for song credits and most of the time they seem to get interrupted by this insistence on launching the next show. You see something similar now with youtube, where before the videos ends the real estate on the screen for the last 10 seconds becomes filled with suggestions for what to watch next. Often to the detriment of some important visual that's still on the screen. It's almost like there's a genuine fear that someone stopping to concentrate on the present represents a serious threat to their engagement metrics. I can say that I end up consuming less of all this stuff as a result of the frustration.

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If anyone from netflix is reading, the reason I don't watch as much as I used to is because of the automatic previews. I used to just leave netflix open all day and randomly pick things when I felt like watching. I can't do that anymore. Though I do really appreciate how easy it is to suspend/cancel. I'll be back for stranger things, but who knows how long I'll stay.

You are more profitable for them by not watching as much as you used to. The only way your apathy hurts them is if you downgrade to a lower tier of service or cancel it.

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I agree with a lot of the criticisms of content on Netflix, but I also think that it was necessary. I don’t think it would be possible to pump out only A++++ content to fill their catalog in the time that they have been able to grow their offering. So now that they do have a ton of content, they can scale down new releases a bit and focus on providing better content rather than more content. I think they had to push out as much as they could because of all of the new competition in the area. Now they have a large collection of Netflix originals to keep some subset of subscribers entertained, and going forward they can focus on growing that subset by introducing better quality originals. If they focused solely on quality, a subscriber might only stay for a few months or a year or so before they could watch everything (edit: everything “worth watching”) and unsubscribe. Just my opinion.

Edit2: as part of the growth of competition in this arena, Netflix was having certain shows pulled (an example that comes to mind is The Office)

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A pile of mid tier content that i'd flick through before exiting out after an episode Automatic previews Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on Horrible comedians that were akin to ted talks/lectures or made for people who don't actually enjoy stand up comedy. Documentaries that were more ideological than interesting Signing and hiring ex politicians Searching is a chore and recomme…

The only thing I would add to that list is the phenomenon where they list the same movie in 5 or 6 different categories.

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I wish Netflix would buy TCM, so I don't have to wait a week to watch the next Noir Alley.

I wish Apple would buy Netflix. It would really bootstrap their TV+ offering

TV+ is doing good on its own. CODA, Severance and Ted Lasso are already bringing attention to the platform. Netflix would just muddy Apples image as a high quality brand.
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