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Netflix’s big power clash and rivalries behind the crash

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Post by ctf1er »

scarface74 wrote: post #121
boredumb wrote: post #72

A pile of mid tier content that i'd flick through before exiting out after an episode Automatic previews Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on Horrible comedians that were akin to ted talks/lectures or made for people who don't actually enjoy stand up comedy. Documentaries that were more ideological than interesting Signing and hiring ex politicians Searching is a chore and recomme…

> Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on People said the same thing in the 60s when Star Trek had the nerve to have a representative crew aboard the Enterprise and when they showed an interracial kiss.

People are saying that right now about the new Star Treks. And I don't think most disagree with the politics/social commentary, it's just so in your face/contrived that it ruins the show for many.

Re: Netflix’s big power clash and rivalries behind the crash

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Post by colinmhayes »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #118
quickthrowman wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The chart doesn’t include HBO originals. I’ve never seen a Netflix show that is on par with the best HBO content.

I would put Narcos up there.

I would not. It's not even close either.

Re: Netflix’s big power clash and rivalries behind the crash

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Post by solarhoma »

Spivak wrote: post #120
boredumb wrote: post #72

A pile of mid tier content that i'd flick through before exiting out after an episode Automatic previews Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on Horrible comedians that were akin to ted talks/lectures or made for people who don't actually enjoy stand up comedy. Documentaries that were more ideological than interesting Signing and hiring ex politicians Searching is a chore and recomme…

> Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on :( I know this is a tangent but it’s always sad to see representation treated as inherently political. Like this is the first time in my life I’ve ever seen mainstream shows portray wlw relationships. Or shows portray the reality of how common and casual sexual assault is. Or characters that that struggle with depression as more than just an…

It becomes a problem though when shows are catering to what 1% (or less) of the population looks like or is diagnosed with. This is what people are getting upset with. Representation is fine. But when every new show you turn on has half of the cast as a trans person, a non-binary person, and a whatever else it gets old. It gets old when historical shows and films have distorted facts or figures to, again, fill some quota. Having people in key roles where they would have never been introduced to those parts of the world at that time. Or, shoehorning some form of sexuality into a historical figure for no reason other than to check a quota box.

Re: Netflix’s big power clash and rivalries behind the crash

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Post by WalterBright »

rchaud wrote: post #122
Spivak wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on :( I know this is a tangent but it’s always sad to see representation treated as inherently political. Like this is the first time in my life I’ve ever seen mainstream shows portray wlw relationships. Or shows portray the reality of how common and casual sexual assault is. Or characters that that struggle with depression as more than just an…

The implication being that anything outside of the anodyne mainstream of cable TV must be a concerted effort to brainwash the public. Netflix has many problems, the big ones being that they lost old shows like The Office and Friends, which hurts retention. And they also kill off promising new shows after 2 seasons to save money on renegotiating cast contracts. If you read comment sections however, you'll get a very d…

There's only so many times you can rewatch The Office and Friends. It can't be a major ongoing revenue source.

> brainwash

This has been going on forever. Check out "The Brady Bunch". Every episode revolves around a heavy-handed moral lesson. Go back even further and you've got the Hayes Code. Hollywood has always seen itself as morally superior to the rest of us, and hence entitled to preach to us.

Though with all the scandals emanating from Hollywood, one wonders how they hold on to that moral superiority.

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scarface74 wrote: post #121
boredumb wrote: post #72

A pile of mid tier content that i'd flick through before exiting out after an episode Automatic previews Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on Horrible comedians that were akin to ted talks/lectures or made for people who don't actually enjoy stand up comedy. Documentaries that were more ideological than interesting Signing and hiring ex politicians Searching is a chore and recomme…

> Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on People said the same thing in the 60s when Star Trek had the nerve to have a representative crew aboard the Enterprise and when they showed an interracial kiss.

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Re: Netflix’s big power clash and rivalries behind the crash

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Post by WalterBright »

Netflix is always recommending to me the same shows, day after day, week after week. I've passed over them many times. When will Netflix give up on them show me something further back in their catalog? This seems like a no-brainer to me. I get bored with scroll scroll scroll to look past them.

Re: Netflix’s big power clash and rivalries behind the crash

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Post by WalterBright »

scarface74 wrote: post #121
boredumb wrote: post #72

A pile of mid tier content that i'd flick through before exiting out after an episode Automatic previews Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on Horrible comedians that were akin to ted talks/lectures or made for people who don't actually enjoy stand up comedy. Documentaries that were more ideological than interesting Signing and hiring ex politicians Searching is a chore and recomme…

> Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on People said the same thing in the 60s when Star Trek had the nerve to have a representative crew aboard the Enterprise and when they showed an interracial kiss.

The hippie Star Trek episode remains ludicrously terrible 60 years later.

Re: Netflix’s big power clash and rivalries behind the crash

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Post by scarface74 »

ctf1er wrote: post #131
scarface74 wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Increasing pop politics seemingly shoe horned into everything I'd turn on People said the same thing in the 60s when Star Trek had the nerve to have a representative crew aboard the Enterprise and when they showed an interracial kiss.

People are saying that right now about the new Star Treks. And I don't think most disagree with the politics/social commentary, it's just so in your face/contrived that it ruins the show for many.

They considered the kiss in your face too at the time.

As was Ellen’s episode when she came out.

Even more recently there was an uproar about “wokeness” when they decided to cast a Black woman to play an orange alien from Tamaran on Titans.

Strangely enough, there was not such an uproar about lily White shows like Friends and Seinfeild.

Re: Netflix’s big power clash and rivalries behind the crash

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Post by birdyrooster »

WalterBright wrote: post #137

Netflix is always recommending to me the same shows, day after day, week after week. I've passed over them many times. When will Netflix give up on them show me something further back in their catalog? This seems like a no-brainer to me. I get bored with scroll scroll scroll to look past them.

I think they are banking that you will stop scrolling and maintain your membership for exclusive releases.
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