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Re: What game are you playing?

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Not particularly OT but not really offtopic either.. have you noticed that mathematicians( and logicians, and quite less so but still programmers) can be mentally very ill and and still become famous for their work? Not so much for other scientists..

One example of a programmer who was very mentally ill is Terry Davis, known for creating TempleOS.

Re: What game are you playing?

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> it then makes sense (and is good) for principled people to trust their judgement, even if it makes them an outcast. I don't get this. Being judgemental always seemed immature to me. Being curious and trying to understand why individuals or groups do seemingly irrational things: yes. Being judgemental (or "principled" (is this synonymous?)): no. To me, that was always a sign of someone who hasn't made sense of thems…

The issue here is, that good sounding high minded principle you describe in first paragraph fairly often amounts to enabling. It also puts great emphasis to understanding aggressor and literally none to understanding victim ... which turns into victim blaming and petty scrutiny of victim fairly often. And I don't even have super big issues in mind. It happens in fairly normal abusive/low level corruption situations t…

So what? Blame the aggressor and stop thinking? It feels like another fallacy.

Re: What game are you playing?

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> Whatever your pursuit, if you’re being judgmental of most other people, then you’re probably missing something big Sure, but this may very well be intentional and good; an entire community can become pathological, and it then makes sense (and is good) for principled people to trust their judgement, even if it makes them an outcast. Liberal-minded people often had this reaction to the mid-century rise of fascism, to…

> it then makes sense (and is good) for principled people to trust their judgement, even if it makes them an outcast. I don't get this. Being judgemental always seemed immature to me. Being curious and trying to understand why individuals or groups do seemingly irrational things: yes. Being judgemental (or "principled" (is this synonymous?)): no. To me, that was always a sign of someone who hasn't made sense of thems…

Have you ever looked at this as competing ideas fighting for domenance in the environment of human minds? We are not the protagonists in this. We are the resources these ideas are using in their endeavors.

Re: What game are you playing?

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> it then makes sense (and is good) for principled people to trust their judgement, even if it makes them an outcast. I don't get this. Being judgemental always seemed immature to me. Being curious and trying to understand why individuals or groups do seemingly irrational things: yes. Being judgemental (or "principled" (is this synonymous?)): no. To me, that was always a sign of someone who hasn't made sense of thems…

Have you experienced a moment when most of your nation supports an unjust invasion, and many openly and proudly dream of genocide?

I think that to pass judgement bears responsibility. So if you want to judge your neighbours go above and beyond reasonable effort.

I'm not religious, but I like what Christians say: do not judge if you don't want to be judged.

Re: What game are you playing?

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Rings true for me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Two_Cultures I know lots of engineers and scientists are devoted to art, opera, literature, history. Next to zero artists or singers who are familiar with say, the laws of thermodynamics.

Excuse me but what definition of “nerd” are you operating under because I want to travel back in time and not literally have the shit beaten out of me and go enjoy an art and history education for the pure academic joy of it.

Are you from the US? The whole jocks/nerds thing is a bit alien to me.

In my school, the top athletes were also good students. The dux was the linchpin of the football team and also wrote poetry.

Re: What game are you playing?

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> it then makes sense (and is good) for principled people to trust their judgement, even if it makes them an outcast. I don't get this. Being judgemental always seemed immature to me. Being curious and trying to understand why individuals or groups do seemingly irrational things: yes. Being judgemental (or "principled" (is this synonymous?)): no. To me, that was always a sign of someone who hasn't made sense of thems…

Most people are not deep or interesting, and are easy to plot on a database. If silicon valley companies know being a consumer - for instance - is a wretched lifestyle, then so can the average person. I don't need cutesy ways to understand it, I resent it. Having to send your kids to school with fancy clothes and shiny toys - what a setback in society. At some point you need to have a set of axioms to ground yourself…

> Most people are not deep or interesting, and are easy to plot on a database

This strikes me as only very superficially true. In my own experience as a human, I've found that every person I meet is unique and interesting in meaningful ways. I didn't use the term "deep" because it seems ill-defined in this context. If one of the main ways you think about "most people" is "not deep", then it seems to me that you're letting arrogance blind you to reality.

What I mean by that is that there's an infinite number of ways for depth to emerge in our complex reality. Thinking deeply with the most linear and rational parts of our brains on a specific category of topics is just one of those many ways. Many times, the illusion of shallowness emerges when the "others" understand something intuitively that the judgmental person only knows how to think about logically.

Fancy clothes and toys are a status symbol. Within interpersonal hierarchies, status is incredibly important and many parents believe that it is important for their child to grow up with a sufficiently high feeling of status within their peer groups. That helps the child learn interpersonal interactions in a certain way, and it helps them develop their self-esteem and self-image in certain ways and it also reflects back on the parents. You might choose to dismiss status and social hierarchy and social development as irrelevant to the life you want to live, but it doesn't make the topic any less complex or interesting for the people who do value those things.

Reading to the end of your comment again, I'm hoping you're just a troll, because a worldview that groups people into categories like "better than you" and "worse than you" without context is a dangerous worldview. I hope for your own sake that you take the time to revisit that opinion.

Re: What game are you playing?

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Excuse me but what definition of “nerd” are you operating under because I want to travel back in time and not literally have the shit beaten out of me and go enjoy an art and history education for the pure academic joy of it.

Are you from the US? The whole jocks/nerds thing is a bit alien to me. In my school, the top athletes were also good students. The dux was the linchpin of the football team and also wrote poetry.

I’m from the US. But the jocks/nerds thing is alien to me too for what it’s worth. In my experience the conflicting difference was jerks/nerds. I wasn’t close friends with many athletes but many of them were friendly, and yes great students. And one who I did become close friends with wasn’t particularly inclined to poetry AFAIK, but we did form a “band” and record an (embarrassing now) “album” together.

Re: What game are you playing?

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True. Was angling for that with the "that those will remain stable". It seems easier to personally define what one thinks winning is, and then evaluate (and modify if possible) the games we come across.

I've found that constraints breed creativity. In my experience, choosing from existing choices, and modifying them to fit, is way easier than imagining the perfect thing in a vacuum. Although potentially less powerful and transformative.

Definitely. Nobody likes forklift upgrades in PROD. Unless it's a complete wreck and one's much better off moving to a different country or the like.

Even smaller, more incremental experiments can be difficult to imagine. eg. beyond a multitool, smartphone, and computer, what additional things have high value? The multitool has high unexpected utility in that I would have predicted near zero and I now use it all the time. So it's likely that I am blind to other possible improvements.

Re: What game are you playing?

#189
post #34

I’m playing StarCraft 1 over again. So great.

These for me are the socialising and interrelationship games. Its part of playing the tribe game. Fwiw: We're playing starcraft as well on weekends. Lan party style. Interludes of doom and quake. Warcraft 2 as well. Cracktorio is always running. Still working out how we'll play bolo.

Bring me in fam, I’ll zergling rush ya’ll

Re: What game are you playing?

#190
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> nerds in particular get shit for respect I have no idea what world you're living in, but it's not mine.

And how many points did you complete this sprint, scubbo?

a) I don't know, I'm lucky enough to be in a position where I'm trusted to simply execute and deliver on the things that I think are worthwhile. They might happen to align with Agile planning processes, that's nice for the manager who happens to be running it, but that's not my concern. b) Even if this was something that I was being concerned with, "working in an environment where my productivity is monitored and measured" is hardly disrespect. Or, at least, it's no more disrespect than every other worker in this capitalist hellscape suffers - and nerds (more accurately, "job roles that are commonly associated with nerdy people") tend to have a much easier and freer professional life than others. So, if you want to say that nerds are disrespected, it's truer to say "workers are disrespected, and many nerds are workers".
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