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Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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> Tigran Khudaverdyane was forced to resign when he was hit with sanctions by the European Union. So, did he got sanctions lifted? If yes, what was the point? It is not a musical chairs game, it is a bloody war.

> So, did he got sanctions lifted?

No, and nothing in the article suggested they had been.

He remains sanctioned, and can’t work at Yandex.

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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Just think about all those EU politicians that are in business with Russian companies or are rumored to be paid by Russia. I never understood why the USA didn't find ways to finance all European political parties after 1989 instead of letting them go around looking for money (politics has costs, no shame) with some of them ending up in Moscow or Beijing.

I think that difference is that USA was not actually that deeply interested in secretly running whole of Europe. Meanwhile, Russia was deeply interested in doing so last two decades.

And they were very interested in doing so before that. Communist parties across the world received a lot of their funding from the USSR.

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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I would like to know why Yandex though that opening data centers in western counties would be a good idea. Surely they knew that, as a Russian company, if their government ever becomes aggressive, they'll also be targeted by sanctions.

Should Google be preparing for sanctions against the US the next time they invade somewhere? Companies usually don't plan for unprecedented actions.

> Should Google be preparing for sanctions against the US the next time they invade somewhere?

Who's gonna sanction the US?

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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You're correct, though I wonder what the reason could be other than expiring. Thinking out loud, maybe they've had trouble paying due to money transfer issues between Finland and Russia. In any case it's not directly due to any sanctions as the company is not sanctioned.

I guess the company was Ilmatar Energy, and they had signed a five-year contract, which started in January. Some contract violation is required to cancel that. https://www.saurenergy.com/solar-energy-news/russian-yandex-... https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/yandex-signs-5-ye...

I wonder. Every contract I've ever signed, has clauses about "unless legally compelled".

EG, if it is an NDA, it often talks about the NDA being void, if compelled to testify etc etc

Most supply contracts should have the same concept. That is, "this contract isn't enforcable, if a party is legally compelled to do thing $x".

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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How so? Large diesel generators are respectably efficient at perhaps 40%. Not as efficient as a CCGT plant at 60% but also not in a different order of magnitude.

Because a 20% drop in efficiency is substantial, and because the alternative to diesel generators isn’t just CCGT. You could also use solar, wind, nuclear, tidal etc etc Carbon output of a diesel generator is horrific compared to just about any form of large scale energy production.

To be fair, I've seen devs use 1000s of times, even millions of times the resources required.

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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it's worth noting that the whole EU starting from the earlier european communities was built on such an idea that tighter and tighter integration would make war unlikely (and in some cases, unthinkable). While this didn't work out for the Russian relationship, it wasn't a totally stupid plan.

This war has proven that as long as national interests are strong enough, those economical ties most likely won't last..which is a scary precedent for Europe in general.

I think Russia is the wrong place to look for what European countries will and won’t do.

On the whole the EU project, and the approach of tight economic ties across the continent has been a huge success.

Until Ukraine there hasn’t been a war in Europe for 75 years. Before the EU and the drive to economic integration, Europe had been in a state of almost perpetual war between the different states. Even today the economic integration has made war between most European states unthinkable. Nobody is worried about the U.K. declaring war on France or vice-versa, something that almost habitual before the 21st century.

Russia is the anomaly here, the one case where economic integration didn’t prevent war. But just because the approach isn’t 100% effective, doesn’t mean it’s worthless.

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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Because a 20% drop in efficiency is substantial, and because the alternative to diesel generators isn’t just CCGT. You could also use solar, wind, nuclear, tidal etc etc Carbon output of a diesel generator is horrific compared to just about any form of large scale energy production.

To be fair, I've seen devs use 1000s of times, even millions of times the resources required.

It usually all goes wrong the moment someone is granted permission to use a 2nd computer to solve some problem.

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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This war has proven that as long as national interests are strong enough, those economical ties most likely won't last..which is a scary precedent for Europe in general.

Russia has a lot of special characteristics which most other European states lack: (1) huge population and area; (2) permanent member of UN Security Council; (3) accepted nuclear weapons state with one of world’s largest nuclear arsenals; (4) superpower with a massive multi-decade empire only 3-4 decades ago. Few other European states have any or all of these characteristics; UK and France probably come the closest,…

Russia has a lot of special characteristics which most other European states lack

I once heard this stressed very strongly, from a historical, cultural, and political perspective.

Russia is not European.

If one considers the mindset which allowed this war to happen, and the politics, the fascism, this seems quite true.

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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in some places across EU decimal points are thousands separators and commas indicate decimals. i find this confusing too

Some places = everywhere except UK and Ireland basically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#/media/File:...

haha til

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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in some places across EU decimal points are thousands separators and commas indicate decimals. i find this confusing too

It's pretty obvious a liter of diesel cannot cost 2175EUR, so I don't understand how one can make this mistake even if they use the reverse.

Hence I asked whether I was missing something.
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