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Pitivi, a free and open source video editor for Linux

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Re: Pitivi, a free and open source video editor for Linux

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Incredible useless comment.

true though

No, it's not true. On the top of my head there is Inkscape which truly is intuitive (despite GTK) and, arguably with their latest betas, beautiful.

I wish we could have something like it with Qt/KDE. Calligra's Karbon once was a nice promise but it is now only a shadow of what it was meant to be and even living a slow death.

Re: Pitivi, a free and open source video editor for Linux

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true though

No, it's not true. On the top of my head there is Inkscape which truly is intuitive (despite GTK) and, arguably with their latest betas, beautiful. I wish we could have something like it with Qt/KDE. Calligra's Karbon once was a nice promise but it is now only a shadow of what it was meant to be and even living a slow death.

The OP is saying that the comment that says GTK is unintuitive is useless is true, and you are saying that GTK is beautiful and intuitive, which is just confirming the OP's comment. I think you miss the point here.

Re: Pitivi, a free and open source video editor for Linux

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Nothing made with GTK is beautiful or intuitive.

You chose the worst possible way to express a concept many of us could agree about; let me attempt to expand it a bit. GTK choice of putting everything, including buttons, on the windows title bar kills intuitiveness and slows down the workflow. When a window/dialog/whatever opens, I look at the title, then if necessary I move it to another place by grabbing that same title bar, which is immediate because that is whe…

Is that an issue with GTK or the Gnome HIG?

Re: Pitivi, a free and open source video editor for Linux

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Muvee is much simpler and quick to produce usable videos - https://www.muvee.com (disclosure: I used to work for muvee over a decade ago)

Their CDN certificate seems to have expired 3-4 months ago, which is a quite scary warning for a user to see when downloading an exe from the internet. No Linux download either it seems (Pitivi is a Linux program)

Re: Pitivi, a free and open source video editor for Linux

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You chose the worst possible way to express a concept many of us could agree about; let me attempt to expand it a bit. GTK choice of putting everything, including buttons, on the windows title bar kills intuitiveness and slows down the workflow. When a window/dialog/whatever opens, I look at the title, then if necessary I move it to another place by grabbing that same title bar, which is immediate because that is whe…

Is that an issue with GTK or the Gnome HIG?

Or the user?

There's always a hypervocal minority in any a GNOME related thread claiming that GNOME 3 was a regression, it has too much padding, it's too slow, it takes too much memory, it doesn't allow you to configure something, etc etc etc.

Meanwhile, every big distro chooses it and millions get on with it just fine.

Re: Pitivi, a free and open source video editor for Linux

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Incredible useless comment.

"nothing" may be too much. But if very basic components like file choose and file save dialog are incredibly painful to be used with buttons scattered through all window corners (fitts law anyone?) then "nothing" starts resounding in your mind. https://python-gtk-3-tutorial.readthedocs.io/en/latest/_imag... You can find another control at bottom left to choose file codification or whatever. Font select dialog: https:…

The non-standard and objectively poor positioning of the buttons is fascinating. What was the logic behind this?

It seems to me that designers are much less likely to give their time for free to a software project than programmers. Is that why OSS suffers from problems like this? A junior UI designer would never make these kinds of decisions.

I can understand why designers wouldn’t work for free. What I don’t understand is why an average coder couldn’t do some basic googling and learn the fundamentals. You can get a long way by imitating commercial work and following standard conventions. So is it lack of skill, or some sort of mistaken belief that the conventions established by the experts are wrong?

I’m wondering here if the idea is to imitate a forward/back step from a wizard (albeit with the buttons in the “wrong” vertical position) Not a paradigm appropriate for repeated everyday interactions, mainly because wizards are not designed for efficiency.

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