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Post by iaml »

EricDeb wrote: post #615
maxcan wrote: post #172

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100%, but you're right that nobody wants to talk about it. I guess I've just adapted by growing thick skin around the issue and just not letting it bother me. That thick skin is, IMHO, a trait that I think has become vastly underappreciated in our society.

True but we certainly don't tell anyone else in modern society to simply develop thick skin towards unnecessary abuse (minorities, lgbtq, etc)

This happens more often then you think. I’ve seen basically every minority group imaginable get told to develop thick skin and get over their “imaginary problems” (black, asian, indian, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, asexual, straight, poor, rich etc), even on more liberal corners of the internet.

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Post by michaelmrose »

pawelmurias wrote: post #637
michaelmrose wrote: post #606

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Human trafficking doesn't become acceptable because somehow you believe the person is getting enough out of the deal. If you have to rebrand a trafficked individual an "economic refugee" you are working on a marketing degree not a conscience. There are billions of women out there and they can't all marry the 6'6" quarterback because there are only so many of them in the universe. I find that people who claim that the…

Why would they date people who they don't want? The lower your expectations into the gutter advice is blindly parroted but is idiotic. Being alone is a lot better than finding someone who sucks.

Don't fish in the sewers nor scoff at people whose flaws are no deeper than your own.

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Post by inkblotuniverse »

workOrNah wrote: post #549
shortzportz wrote: post #425

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No omginternets, you are wrong here. Heightism and racism really is the same thing. If someone who is 160 cm doesn't get the manager job because however is recruiting don't believe his subordinates would respect him because of his lack of stature, then that is just as bad as a black person would't get the manager job because perhaps his subordinates don't respect black people. The point is how limiting the discrimina…

> Heightism and racism really is the same thing. The mental gymnastics is astounding

'Discrimination bad' is simpler than what's happening in your head, I think

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Post by ___del___ »

screye wrote: post #467
throwaway515 wrote: post #168

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> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future. I'm 5'6, and after almost 15 years of dating sites to modern dating apps, I have indeed accepted that yes, I will very likely die alone. My therapist has even half-seriously suggested I try lying about my height, and qualms aside, from the studies I've read, any plausible-…

Trying to play a broken game honestly, is a losing proposition. Social taboos get established to keep the winners winning. Go find yourself a gold digger. It is fine. Maybe go date women in cultures where 5.6 is not too short. Hell, I'd say that a mail order bride (more likely an economic refugee who appreciates your wealth) is still better than dying alone. It is a brutally objectifying system and you have to play t…

lets stop using refugee except where it counts, they are migrants. Same thing goes for expats like myself, were migrants.

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Post by inkblotuniverse »

omginternets wrote: post #209
daenz wrote: post #175

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There is no difference in the comparison because they're both based on immutable physical characteristics. There's a difference in the historical context, which you highlight.

This does not follow. There is a difference in historical context, which has a bearing on the real-world effects of height-vs-race discrimination, ergo there are differences between the two. In exactly the same way: Abraham Lincoln and Pol Pot are both heads of state, but it is incorrect to say there are no differences between them.

If Abraham Lincoln shoots someone in the head, and Pol Pot shoots someone in the head, in both cases someone's killed someone else.

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Post by feanaro »

aortega wrote: post #99
chrischen wrote: post #35

> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future.

Why would it only get worse? How do you know this? I'm puzzled by the certainty.

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Post by zarzavat »

chevill wrote: post #518
screye wrote: post #467

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Trying to play a broken game honestly, is a losing proposition. Social taboos get established to keep the winners winning. Go find yourself a gold digger. It is fine. Maybe go date women in cultures where 5.6 is not too short. Hell, I'd say that a mail order bride (more likely an economic refugee who appreciates your wealth) is still better than dying alone. It is a brutally objectifying system and you have to play t…

I'm a short guy (5'6") married for nearly 2 decades to an even shorter woman (4'11"). Perhaps its easy for me to say it because I've beaten the odds, but it seems to me it would be better to die alone than to be in a shitty relationship or to be in a relationship with someone that thinks they are making a concession by dating a shorter person. People cannot help what they are/are not attracted to so I have no animosi…

It’s not beating the odds though. There’s countless millions of women around the world who would be thrilled to be dating a 5’6” American/imperial unit user. The problem only exists if you limit yourself arbitrarily to a very small pool of women having a particular nationality and skin color.

95% of women are not American. And only a very small percentage of those are gold diggers or mail order brides. The vast majority are just normal people with normal dreams of having a modest family.

If someone is 5’6 and having trouble meeting someone, they should consider if their own criteria are irrational.

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Post by tssva »

throw__away7391 wrote: post #194
throwaway515 wrote: post #168

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> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future. I'm 5'6, and after almost 15 years of dating sites to modern dating apps, I have indeed accepted that yes, I will very likely die alone. My therapist has even half-seriously suggested I try lying about my height, and qualms aside, from the studies I've read, any plausible-…

I'm a tad over 6' but girls are so used to guys lying about their hight that they usually say I'm 6'2". On multiple occasions I've had my date insist over my objection that I must be taller than that. It's not a stretch for me to imagine that widespread lying by men about their hight has actually collectively made the problem worse for men, e.g. women insisting on 6 feet because they've dating 5'10" guys claiming to…

I used to be 6'1" but have reached the age where you shrink. I am now also a tad over 6' and always answer the height question as 6'. My experience is similar to yours. Some women insist I must be 6'2". A couple of times I have just said that maybe I'm closer to 6'1" because it was close to becoming a full blown argument. Needless to say there were not 2nd dates with those women.

Being at the age where you shrink is also the age where many of the women you meet were formerly married. It is amazing how many of them have said that their former spouses were shorter to just taller than them and it bothered them the entire marriage. They say they will never make that compromise again.

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Post by ben7799 »

I'm 6'1" but I can kind of get this, however it's just one factor out of many that are like this and are made worse by the whole toxic online dating scene in general. I'm 44 and have been married for 12 years so this is beyond me but my 20s were really rough.

Men are just as bad but certainly my early 20s were dominated by getting rejected for having a nerdy job (SWE) or not being muscular enough/looking by a football player, whatever. When you're in your 20s and trying to date everyone is just superficial as anything. The fitness stuff was always funny cause I was more fit than 90% of people out on the dating market just I was an endurance type not a bodybuilder/muscle head/football player type which is obviously what is/was desirable for a lot of women. That gets even weirder as you get older as it's much easier as an endurance type to stay fit & healthy as you age.

Things have changed and maybe it's not as biased against tech jobs these days. However in the early 2000s it was literally my experience women would instantly say "I'm out" if they heard I had a tech job, except for the odd case where they were clearly gold diggers and had already figured out this field was lucrative.

In the end you just have to get through it.. by the time you start approaching 30 and everyone starts to grow up a lot of this stuff goes away. If you let stuff bother you there will always be something about yourself you can fixate on.

It does sound like the last 10 years of online dating only got worse though, and amplified everything superficial.

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Post by bestbuyer__ »

fleddr wrote: post #298
billllll wrote: post #238

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> Not a word is wasted on actual love. > > For the cynics that may think that I'm coping, I'm not. I'm 6"4 and in a loving long term relationship. As a 5'5" Asian man (statistically one of the lowest rate of matches in online dating), I find it personally demeaning that you feel like you need to be morally outraged for me, because trust me, I sure as shit don't need it. People are attracted to attractive people. That…

Calm down. Your reply is outrageously angry. If you had bothered to read my post with care, you'd perhaps noticed the nuance where I said height can be a soft unspoken preference, which indeed is widespread. I objected specifically against this preference becoming a rock hard criteria at some weird absolute point, say 6". That is a societal trend. It's culture, not biology. It's the hardening of a criteria that has l…

The rock hard criterion still exists in other places but it's expressed in metric. In France it is usually 180cm (~5'11"), in Japan I've heard 170cm (~5'7") so it seems that people mostly like round numbers rather than 6ft specifically.
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