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Post by aortega »

chroma wrote: post #415
chrischen wrote: post #116

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Lucky for short people, height is a lot less of a factor in modern society. Wealth is a much bigger factor. And what's the best path to wealth? Software . Even more lucky for them, software and internet doesn't care about height.

I'm a multimillionaire and every single woman I've dated has said, "I'm glad I took a chance on you even though you're so short." I'm 5'6". Women filter on height the same way that men filter on weight & age. If you don't pass that first filter, it doesn't matter what your advantages are.

I used to go out with a friend of mine, he's a multiple business owner, a miltimillionarie since he was 25, blonde, blue eyes, etc. Also he's very social, he was always the 'soul of the party' etc. Me, at that time I had a 10 years old car, but I'm 5'9 and he's 5'6.

I always was the one that got the phone numbers, always.

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Post by erosenbe0 »

Crabber wrote: post #379
astrange wrote: post #297

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That’s not dysgenic. If you’re in an environment and supplements are available and you function best with them, that’s just a food source you’re adapted to. I don’t go around calling people poorly adapted for needing oxygen and vitamin C.

Becoming reliant on additional external resources to survive is objectively backwards evolution. You brought up oxygen reliance as a silly point but you're actually right. Humans relying on oxygen actually isn't that great, we can't go into space or underwater (without external support) and we get out of breath when exercising. A group of humans that evolved to not need oxygen at all would be a great genetic improvem…

But human evolution is basically a story where bigger brains coevolved with increased reliance on more diverse and higher quality food sources. Otherwise, for example, we would have much lower requirements for exogenous Vitamin C, like many other mammals.

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Post by aortega »

miramardesign wrote: post #200
throwaway515 wrote: post #168

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> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future. I'm 5'6, and after almost 15 years of dating sites to modern dating apps, I have indeed accepted that yes, I will very likely die alone. My therapist has even half-seriously suggested I try lying about my height, and qualms aside, from the studies I've read, any plausible-…

Brother do what I did move to south America, the dollar goes a long way and the ladies love their short kings. I'm amazed walking around here in Argentina how many couples where the woman is a head taller than the guy. Spoiled american women won't go for a guy a head taller than her.

I'm in Argentina and my ex-wife is 5'11, I'm 5'9. Thing is, tall girls are not that selective.

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Post by bhedgeoser »

gregsher88 wrote: post #420

I’m 5’7” and have had no problems meeting women. There is a lot that goes into this, but I found that the single biggest factor in attracting the opposite sex was appropriating a violent, devil-may-care attitude. When it comes to the primal question of “Will this guy be capable of defending me / my offspring” taller guys are given the benefit of the doubt whereas I literally have something to prove.

Explains why my 5'1 teacher was so fucking ferocious.

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Post by aeze »

throwaway515 wrote: post #168
aortega wrote: post #99

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>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future. I'm 5'6, and after almost 15 years of dating sites to modern dating apps, I have indeed accepted that yes, I will very likely die alone. My therapist has even half-seriously suggested I try lying about my height, and qualms aside, from the studies I've read, any plausible-…

I'm 5'5, pretty average (ie. not rich or particularly physically attractive), and I've consistently had attractive romantic partners my entire life. US-based, metropolitan area if that matters.

I don't really have any advice, but I really don't think your height is limiting you. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely harder than if you were six inches taller, but it's not that bad.

It's one factor of many that affects your overall attractiveness and many people don't care about it at all.

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Post by Zenbit_UX »

izzydata wrote: post #239
chrisseaton wrote: post #189

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Even people I respect use 'short' as some kind of slur against people they don't like. For example against Putin. (Doesn't matter what you think of Putin - slurs based on personal appearance are always wrong against anyone full stop.)

This is the one aspect of the show "Last Week Tonight" that always irked me. He makes fun of peoples appearances too much. It's just not good comedy or even a good insult in my opinion.

The one person whose appearance John Oliver has made fun of more than any other is, John Oliver.

Aside from that, he punches up, politicians, celebreties and sometimes just random people, but always in playful manner. Hes quite fond of absurdist rants and comments, I find it thoroughly entertaining.

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Post by t-3 »

throw__away7391 wrote: post #194
throwaway515 wrote: post #168

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> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future. I'm 5'6, and after almost 15 years of dating sites to modern dating apps, I have indeed accepted that yes, I will very likely die alone. My therapist has even half-seriously suggested I try lying about my height, and qualms aside, from the studies I've read, any plausible-…

I'm a tad over 6' but girls are so used to guys lying about their hight that they usually say I'm 6'2". On multiple occasions I've had my date insist over my objection that I must be taller than that. It's not a stretch for me to imagine that widespread lying by men about their hight has actually collectively made the problem worse for men, e.g. women insisting on 6 feet because they've dating 5'10" guys claiming to…

I've had shorter guys get very upset with me when I accurately say that I'm 5'10“. It's really strange, the lies that people tell themselves.

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Post by scythe »

dqpb wrote: post #423
throwaway7266 wrote: post #338

I'm a guy of median height and great fitness, and I had a partner recommend limb lengthening in passing to me once. At the time, I had no idea what it even was but became disgusted as I learned the details. When I asked her why she would ever recommend such a thing, she said it was a joke. However, she had also purchased some pairs of 3 inch elevator shoes for me (also had no idea these were a thing) and insisted I w…

I find it very strange that a partner would want this. Presumably the desire for a taller mate is fundamentally a desire for taller children. The procedure is obviously not inherited. This must have just been a cruel strategic denigration.

This fundamentally misunderstands how evolution works. Evolution's tactic isn't to make you want things that lead to reproduction. Evolution tries to make you do things that lead to reproduction. The wanting is only applied if it's convenient. If the desire for tall men is evolutionarily based (which seems plausible, but has not been demonstrated) then that provides no reason to expect women consciously believe anything in particular about tall men — in fact, there's no guarantee that any other evolved behaviors are the direct realization of corresponding conscious desires, either. Evolution would be perfectly happy giving you a sexual interest for X useful trait without ever explaining to you why you like that. See also: "good with his hands".

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Post by nradov »

chrischen wrote: post #35

> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

Likewise, for some reason it still seems to be socially acceptable among the educated professional and managerial classes to discriminate against the less intelligent and even openly mock them. There seems to be a social consensus now that it's wrong to make fun of people with an IQ below about 70 (intellectually disabled) but apparently those in the roughly 71 - 99 IQ range are fair game. Is that morally right? I don't understand it.

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Post by epvgwwqe »

This is a bad case of body dysmorphia. The amount of variance in mating success attributed to a 3 inch difference in height is far less than improvements in personality/fitness/success can account for. Not condoning by any means women crapping on short guys, but empirically women readily change their stated height preferences in the face of other outlying factors. In contrast, it's much harder for women to change their level of desirability.
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