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Post by Darmody »

ZoomZoomZoom wrote: post #320
Darmody wrote: post #207

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Plenty of women don't care about that. Just stop using apps like Tinder, they attract the worst of the worst, by what I see, especially in the US. Even if you were above 6', you wouldn't want to date a woman obsessed with height. In my group of friends, the shorter ones (around 1,73m) are the most successful ones.

> the shorter ones (around 1,73m) Ahem, that's almost exactly the average height for a male in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_countr...

The average here is 1,75 so my friend is shorter.

My point is, it doesn't matter that much. It matters, sadly, but not to the point where you can't find women that are attracted to you.

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Post by alphabettsy »

aortega wrote: post #245
klipt wrote: post #190

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> plus, even if woman select for taller men, men do not necessarily select for taller woman, and woman are part of this too let's not forget Men's preferences only matter in a monogamous society, where less attractive women are expected to settle down with less attractive men who will financially support their kids. But in modern welfare states, less attractive women can still sleep with very attractive men (whom the…

>Which means the rich but unattractive men are, through taxes, paying for the children of the attractive men I con't understand how so few people realize this. The modern 'incel crisis' is fueled by online dating and government subsidies. It's the perfect combination to ensure reproduction of only the top few percent of men.

> The modern 'incel crisis' is fueled by online dating and government subsidies.

It’s really not. It’s fueled by echo chambers and it’s self-reinforcing.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by jackblemming »

throwaway7266 wrote: post #338

I'm a guy of median height and great fitness, and I had a partner recommend limb lengthening in passing to me once. At the time, I had no idea what it even was but became disgusted as I learned the details. When I asked her why she would ever recommend such a thing, she said it was a joke. However, she had also purchased some pairs of 3 inch elevator shoes for me (also had no idea these were a thing) and insisted I w…

I think you dodged a bullet, mate. I wonder how she would react if you recommended she get breast implants.

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Post by Nav_Panel »

aortega wrote: post #261
LAC-Tech wrote: post #214

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IME Dating apps are a terrible way to meet women. All they have to go off are a few pictures and some numerical stats - and it's a sausage fest, the odds are stacked way against you. Hang out with people IRL.

Dating apps are a way to gain insight into psychology. If you don't use dating apps, the preferences remain.

Dating apps are a way to gain insight into how UX manipulates desire + how applications produce behavioral statistics which we then clumsily project into iron laws of psychology.

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Post by havelhovel »

everly wrote: post #89
semitones wrote: post #45

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And what do you do if you're short in the south?

Address the mental issues that are causing you to fixate on height and how others perceive you.

That would involve living in denial or becoming a hermit since these perceptions are often verbalized unprompted.

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Post by fleddr »

ensan wrote: post #290
billllll wrote: post #238

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> Not a word is wasted on actual love. > > For the cynics that may think that I'm coping, I'm not. I'm 6"4 and in a loving long term relationship. As a 5'5" Asian man (statistically one of the lowest rate of matches in online dating), I find it personally demeaning that you feel like you need to be morally outraged for me, because trust me, I sure as shit don't need it. People are attracted to attractive people. That…

Calm down, no one claimed to speak for you. I come from a country where 6 ft.+ is considered pretty tall so I totally believe that this type of metric is not universal. In fact, there is no real analogue there and I have never heard of a female mentioning a specific height as a preference. It was a total culture shock to me how big of a deal your height as a number is in parts of the US culture which frankly I find v…

Not to mention the money part. Forgive me for I've been out of the dating scene for quite a while now, but this....

"a 2006 study on online dating found that a man who is 5'6'' needs an additional $175,000 to be as desirable as a man who is approximately 6' tall and only makes $62,500 a year."

How exactly does this work in modern dating? See, when I was dating, I've not once had a woman ask me about my net worth or income. Never. You'll eventually find out, but not during the dating phase. A complete taboo and red flag to bring it up. One could only guess, or decipher it from somebody's job.

Is it now normalized to throw around these numbers in online dating? You fill it out on a profile and people filter for it? Please tell me that's not true. Culture shock indeed.

And those inches are quite expensive. A 175K extra for 4 inches. Takes a lot to build that wealth, after which you're supposed to hand it over to a woman that trades a lack of height for wealth. Quite a prize.

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Post by tsol »

aortega wrote: post #211
klipt wrote: post #190

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> plus, even if woman select for taller men, men do not necessarily select for taller woman, and woman are part of this too let's not forget Men's preferences only matter in a monogamous society, where less attractive women are expected to settle down with less attractive men who will financially support their kids. But in modern welfare states, less attractive women can still sleep with very attractive men (whom the…

>men do not necessarily select for taller woman Men don't select, because we don't get pregnant, our instinct is to mate with whoever we can. Women are nature's selector, not men.

He's not disagreeing with that. . After pregnancy there are about 18 years of raising a kid too-- so ability to provide is a part of selection. In the past women would have to take it into account, but now it's much less necessary because they will be provided for either way

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Post by tsol »

rdiddly wrote: post #287
aortega wrote: post #99

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>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

Pep talk: Everybody dies alone. Sorry, not very "peppy" perhaps. All right, how about this: Quantity of women (i.e. numbers who prefer tall guys on some app) is not the same as quality of women. It's kind of the opposite in fact, if humanity is anything like a bell curve. The mainstream, with its sheer numbers, is full of dullards. The most blindingly, boringly average people, from essentially the center of the gene…

>Who is going to mate with all the short women of the world? Tall guys? No, they're mostly looking for tall girlfriends

What? Tall guys date short girls all the time.

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Post by LMYahooTFY »

chrischen wrote: post #90
SnowHill9902 wrote: post #83

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You are overestimating and being too kind on “modernity”. Even if today short stature is not a disadvantage (and that’s a big if), it can perfectly well be in one month, after a war or pandemic breaks out, or in a generation when your children will be shorter because of current preferences.

It can, but hasn't. Our prejudice against short people is almost certainly a result of past associations with malnutrition and poverty. I can't speak for other reasons, but this reason for short stature is no longer a main cause in modern Western (or even Eastern) society. Plus what you say about the fickleness of advantage/disadvantage equally applies to tall stature. Maybe Ryanair will start charging tall people ex…

And your comments all demonstrate you believe you've found the objective enlightenment that height preference can be dismissed as a "prejudice".

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Post by tsol »

omginternets wrote: post #209
daenz wrote: post #175

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There is no difference in the comparison because they're both based on immutable physical characteristics. There's a difference in the historical context, which you highlight.

This does not follow. There is a difference in historical context, which has a bearing on the real-world effects of height-vs-race discrimination, ergo there are differences between the two. In exactly the same way: Abraham Lincoln and Pol Pot are both heads of state, but it is incorrect to say there are no differences between them.

It's a comparison they are never totally the same. That's the point. If women complain they are treated like slaves, do you stop them to explain they aren't actually treated like slaves?
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