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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by scythe »

reverend_gonzo wrote: post #155
aortega wrote: post #99

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>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

Sounds like a forever aloner. I know multiple tall, classically good looking men who, while they can can get dates, can not maintain them because they have zero relationship skills, and I know just as many short men who have a relationship whenever they want. While height might be an early filter, it is by no means the only source of attraction. Men would do well to build the rest of their personalities to stand them…

>Men would do well to build the rest of their personalities to stand themselves out rather than complain about something they have no control over.

Are you saying that he's missing out on lots of opportunities for self-improvement in the two minutes or less it took to write that comment? It's not wrong for people to complain about things that negatively affect them, and it's not mutually exclusive with trying to fix the problem. There is really no justification for the insistence that short men must not complain at all.

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Post by pessimizer »

KerrAvon wrote: post #246
chrisseaton wrote: post #189

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Even people I respect use 'short' as some kind of slur against people they don't like. For example against Putin. (Doesn't matter what you think of Putin - slurs based on personal appearance are always wrong against anyone full stop.)

What's your moral/ethical basis for that? Sure, don't do this to others in your personal life (or strangers). It's arbitrary cruelty and simply abusive. But I'm not convinced punching upward in this manner to the obscenely rich and powerful should be considered universally wrong. If Putin did not want to be so judged, he wouldn't put out all those pictures of himself shirtless posing with horses and dolphins. I think…

> But I'm not convinced punching upward in this manner to the obscenely rich and powerful should be considered universally wrong.

What if you used racial slurs, but exclusively on brown multimillionaires?

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Post by slibhb »

chrischen wrote: post #35

> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

Deriding people based on their height is wrong. But preference for tall males is based on a preference for strength, athleticism, and ability to fight. This is true in all human cultures. If you think it's outdated, consider sports. Almost all MLB pitchers are > 6' and that's not even getting into basketball. In terms of fighting, although stature is less relevant than ever, there are plenty of ongoing military conflicts.

This is true for lots of things. Being fast is better than being slow. Being smart is better than people simple. Being attractive is better than being ugly. Being fit is better than being fat. This isn't a happy realization but it's true and it's healthy to accept it.

The dimension along which all people are equal is a metaphysical or religious dimension, not an empirical one.

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Post by qayxc »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #63
brabel wrote: post #38

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It's apparently common for Koreans to make operations to widen their eyes to look more like anime characters. In Japan, it used to be a necessity for women to use extremely tight shoes in order to contain feet growth, as women with large feet were less desired or something. In Brazil, the most common surgery for women is probably bum enlargement rather than breast. In some parts of Myanmar, women need to have very lo…

> In Japan, it used to be a necessity for women to use extremely tight shoes in order to contain feet growth You've confused Japan with China.

> You've confused Japan with China.

I think not: https://heianjapanweb.wordpress.com/2016/10/17/blog-post-tit...

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Post by havelhovel »

immigrantheart wrote: post #271

Just don't go for girls who want tall guys? It is not that hard? People like what they like. You can't force girls to like short men or ugly men or poor men or here. I'm speaking as 5'3" Asian man living in Western country where the majority are taller than me. Hear me out, in my country there's this dude who's tall, relatively good looking. Married someone who's not only short, but lack of 4 limbs, and not good look…

If you’re short you have bigger issues than finding a life partner (as I agree height is not the ultimate reason one can’t find love). Studies have shown height affects career advancement and is more significant than race for earnings. One of these forms of discrimination is illegal, but the other is not.

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Post by [deleted] »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #226
chrischen wrote: post #179

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Lying about your height is actually an acceptable thing to do if it is to get over people's prejudices. In all honesty a good chunk of the people you encountered probably wrote you off prematurely anyways. But online dating and Tinder isn't great when you're trying to look past superficial qualities (your face, your height, your basic physical characteristics) so it's setting you up for failure, not to mention the wa…

Thought experiment: Can you apply the same process to other characteristics? For example, is it ok to lie about your race to improve your chances with racists? Even if that works, should you?

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Post by fredophile »

withinboredom wrote: post #309
FooBarWidget wrote: post #173

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Well ok but all the relationship skills in the world can't help you if you can't get past that initial filter.

Confidence gets you past any initial filter (not to be confused with arrogance or assertiveness — be respectful). Once you get serious, it’s the bigger filters you need to worry about IME. My then new girlfriend’s friend asked me out of nowhere: “what’s a derivative?” And my answer was “investing or calculus?” Apparently that was a filter for my wife when she dated. She wanted smart men who weren’t just faking it, wo…

If you're meeting online, which is very common, you can get filtered out well before the first time you meet and can show off your confidence.

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Post by throwaway7266 »

I'm a guy of median height and great fitness, and I had a partner recommend limb lengthening in passing to me once. At the time, I had no idea what it even was but became disgusted as I learned the details. When I asked her why she would ever recommend such a thing, she said it was a joke. However, she had also purchased some pairs of 3 inch elevator shoes for me (also had no idea these were a thing) and insisted I wear them multiple occasions, despite me communicating how offensive the suggestion even was. When she suggested again that she expected me to wear them for the wedding and cared about it enough for it to become a shouting match, I knew for sure that something was VERY wrong. This, along with a dozen other reasons, caused me to call off the engagement. I'm still trying to make sense of it all.

EDIT: It may also be relevant that she was also at least 4 inches shorter than me, so there was no risk of me looking shorter than her, even if she had heels on.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by Wolfenstein98k »

This, like boob jobs, makes me so sad.

I don't but into the "why does culture make us do this" thing, these forces are primal and cross-cultural.

I really just get sad that there are people who are high enough in neuroticism (in the personality psych sense) that they will pay $75k to have their legs broken and hollowed out, to gain 3 inches in height.

Easy for me to say as I don't have this particular issue.

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Post by kjeetgill »

aortega wrote: post #261
LAC-Tech wrote: post #214

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IME Dating apps are a terrible way to meet women. All they have to go off are a few pictures and some numerical stats - and it's a sausage fest, the odds are stacked way against you. Hang out with people IRL.

Dating apps are a way to gain insight into psychology. If you don't use dating apps, the preferences remain.

[citation needed]

My additional accecdata: it's really, really not. Even for an individual, stated preferences are often not that true in practice.

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