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Post by apetersonBFI »

aortega wrote: post #99
chrischen wrote: post #35

> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

>there aren't really downsides to short stature in modern life It even have several health benefits. Except that in dating, women overwhelmingly prefer men over 6', and very small differences like 5'7 vs 5'9 double or triple the matches in online dating sites. If we are talking about 5'6 vs 6'0 the difference is ridiculous, like over 200X more matches. Women even divorce short men at double the rate of tall men. Thos…

I’m a 5’1 guy and I ended up marrying someone who was 5’3, I never expected to get results on a dating site though, I knew my wife from a social setting for months before we started dating.

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Post by chrisseaton »

KerrAvon wrote: post #249
johnny22 wrote: post #242

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as a "libturd" like you say, I don't like to call trump fat or talk about how he was "gay for putin" or any of that. It's not cool at all. Got plenty of other actual criticism. The only reason I'd even consider talking about trump and his apperance in a denigrating fashion is because he's so damn vain. Even so, i try to avoid it.

But we can talk about objective facts: Trump is a tiny, short-fingered vulgarian; a mentally-ill real estate huckster. Nothing shameful about mental illness, but he should get treatment. Can't help him with the fingers, though.

It may be a fact that he has short fingers, but it's not something in his control, or something relevant to anything he does, or something that we should judge him on, or something that we want to associate with being a problem, since there are other short-fingered people who are good people.

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Post by kodah »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #230
kodah wrote: post #203

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Personally, the short men I know still get play. Women have a wide variety of tastes, as do men; and the taste really just needs to be tried once to get a probability for it to stick. That said, women being callous and cruel in groups about height, fitness, etc is more congruent to locker room talk. You probably won't hear it because it's behind your back and usually not by people you know. I say that as having been…

Yeah. My point about promiscuity is that it hasn't hindered my dating ability. I agree with the locker room talk but I disagree that it's a problem. And it's not just women. If anything I've had my stature shit talked more often by other men.

I was just summarizing why I think you probably wouldn't hear it directly from women. Men definitely do it too, but as you said, probably in a more noticeable/direct fashion. That said, after years of social movements that have made very targeted complaints using identity, I would not cast that kind of stone. Trying to use shitty data and anecdotes to declare, "Men/women are problematic because of x" is really not helpful. Really, at the end of the day, nobody on this planet has any business commenting on someone's features they were born with. It's easy enough to stick to that.

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Post by hervature »

jeffbee wrote: post #237
ravenstine wrote: post #213

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> There's absolutely nothing wrong with women finding taller men attractive. It's another thing if it becomes more a cultural expectation than an actual attraction, and I think the reaction would be rather different if enough men decided not to date women who don't have at least D cups.

Well that's an interesting response. Surveyed women of median height prefer men of above-median height. But a D cup bra size is below the median for American adult females (which is a 34DD). I have no idea why popular imagination believes the bra size scale goes from A to D. Edited with context: The point is that men don't just prefer larger and larger breasts; there is a peak in preference for medium breast sizes[1]…

In case people don't know, there's actually two measurements. The first number is the band size (the circumference of your chest under the boob) and the letter signifies how many inches the circumference of your bust is above the first number. A = 1 inch, B = 2 inches, C = 3 inches, D = 4 inches, E/DD = 5 inches, etc. So, taking the median here is kind of confusing. Also, I imagine this distribution is bi-modal with healthy/fit people around 32C and overweight people at 36F.

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Post by Crabber »

thangalin wrote: post #158

For folks in this thread making statements such as, "I don't see how one can dictate to others what they should find attractive," the negative social stigmas towards men of short stature go far beyond physical attraction. (There's absolutely nothing wrong with women finding taller men attractive.) https://twitter.com/heightismxposed Swap "short guy" for "Jew" in the quotations from those twits that have nothing to do…

Stop basing your entire worldview on what 20 women said on twitter.com in 2014

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Post by asib »

KerrAvon wrote: post #246
chrisseaton wrote: post #189

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Even people I respect use 'short' as some kind of slur against people they don't like. For example against Putin. (Doesn't matter what you think of Putin - slurs based on personal appearance are always wrong against anyone full stop.)

What's your moral/ethical basis for that? Sure, don't do this to others in your personal life (or strangers). It's arbitrary cruelty and simply abusive. But I'm not convinced punching upward in this manner to the obscenely rich and powerful should be considered universally wrong. If Putin did not want to be so judged, he wouldn't put out all those pictures of himself shirtless posing with horses and dolphins. I think…

Putin is evil for reasons completely unrelated to his height.

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Post by leereeves »

galoisscobi wrote: post #224
thangalin wrote: post #158

For folks in this thread making statements such as, "I don't see how one can dictate to others what they should find attractive," the negative social stigmas towards men of short stature go far beyond physical attraction. (There's absolutely nothing wrong with women finding taller men attractive.) https://twitter.com/heightismxposed Swap "short guy" for "Jew" in the quotations from those twits that have nothing to do…

I was bullied a lot for being short in high school and at home I was pressured to hang on the pull up bar "to get taller". I hope we stop doing this to people. My experiences in high school deeply affected my mental health.

I also hope we stop doing this to people.

But on the topic of hanging, just out of curiosity, I'd like to mention: I've been reading about the benefits of dead hangs for shoulder health, and I've seen a few comments from people who claim that dead hangs actually did make them taller. I wonder whether it's true.

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Post by est31 »

meowface wrote: post #195
fleddr wrote: post #134

"a 2006 study on online dating found that a man who is 5'6'' needs an additional $175,000 to be as desirable as a man who is approximately 6' tall and only makes $62,500 a year." I guess I appreciate the brutal honesty. Wealth and height. And not to forget social status, as one woman in the linked article explained how she broke up with a short guy because of what others (might) think of it. Not a word is wasted on a…

>The female version is equally disturbing but different. I've never met or talked to a man that finds fake boobs, duck lips, botox, fake bums, fake tans, an inch of makeup in any remote way attractive, or a "selector". So the depressing reality is that women largely do this in a competition towards other women, and this perverted rat race knows many victims. I find everything on that list extremely unattractive, minu…

A lot of men who say they don't like makeup actually do like it without knowing. They just know so little about the makeup world that they don't recognize the "natural" look (while still preferring it). So I would take statements like "I don't like makeup" with a grain of salt, and parse them as "I like the natural look but don't like strong makeup" (what you said basically). Which isn't an uncommon preference at all.

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Post by leereeves »

KerrAvon wrote: post #246
chrisseaton wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even people I respect use 'short' as some kind of slur against people they don't like. For example against Putin. (Doesn't matter what you think of Putin - slurs based on personal appearance are always wrong against anyone full stop.)

What's your moral/ethical basis for that? Sure, don't do this to others in your personal life (or strangers). It's arbitrary cruelty and simply abusive. But I'm not convinced punching upward in this manner to the obscenely rich and powerful should be considered universally wrong. If Putin did not want to be so judged, he wouldn't put out all those pictures of himself shirtless posing with horses and dolphins. I think…

When you insult someone powerful and evil for some immutable characteristic, everyone else who shares that characteristic also feels it.
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