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Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by throwaway202022 »

sonicggg wrote: post #51
chrischen wrote: post #35

> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

You're comparing apples to oranges. Not trying to guess your height, but it seems you got personally attacked by the fact that society in general looks down on short guys. Different from skin colour, there's an evolutionary trait to height preference. Studies have shown that heterosexual women prefer partners taller than them. It's understandable this subconscious bias. And what seems like discrimination, it's just a…

I don't mean to argue that people shouldn't have preferences, but do you know many men who have breast and hip size requirements for a partner and wouldn't consider someone under those measurements? I'm sure there are some, but I can't imagine that's true of the vast majority of men. There's something rather different about a man's height.

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Post by pell »

filoleg wrote: post #40
uncomputation wrote: post #20

I find these subtle, yet extremely intense neuroses we see so often in Western cultures fascinating. The patient remarks on one TikTok video in particular that seemingly tormented him. I had never once thought a few inches height difference in a couple was odd or even worth remarking upon and yet there seems to be this vast, largely untapped sensitivity in men being short. Similar things for sexual activity (incels)…

> I wonder if this is unique to Western/materialistic cultures or more widespread. Not at all, you just don't seem like someone who has much exposure to the world outside of "western cultures". Which is unfortunate, because the rest of your comment has a lot of pretty interesting points to ponder. As others have mentioned in replies, plastic surgery in South Korea is so commonplace and integral to everyday life, it w…

The Western equivalent is probably braces. They’re not medically necessary in the vast majority of cases and usually more invasive and painful than either nose or eyelid surgery. Yet most people don’t seem to consider them in the same category at all.

Re: Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular

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Post by Gimpei »

omginternets wrote: post #53
chrischen wrote: post #35

> “Don’t be so sure of yourself, short man!” The problem is that it's still socially acceptable to see short stature as some objective faux-pas. There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. If the guy said "Don't be so sure of yourself, black man" maybe it would have been acceptable in the 1920s, but it surely isn't…

>There's really no difference between a person proudly declaring they only like "white" people and a person declaring they only like "tall" people. I get where you're coming from -- criticizing people for what they are, rather than for what they do, is exceedingly unfair -- but I can think of at least three important differences, chief among which are: 1. The shortness of men (barring outright dwarfism) has never bee…

Height does appear to be correlated with income[1]. So it’s entirely possible that discrimination has existed and continues to exist. People seem to think that because something is difficult to measure, it isn’t there, but that simply isn’t true. Lookism could also be a big problem, but the causal effects of being unattractive are hard to identify. Imagine trying to assemble a treatment and control group for that. Who is going to self identify as being ugly?

I understand your objection to drawing an equivalence between racial discrimination, but even if it isn’t as “bad” can’t it still recognized as a lesser form of bigotry?

https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~apostlew/paper/pdf/short.pdf

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Post by Avicebron »

I mean women suffer from this too, my gf is 5.1 and constantly complains about not finding things in her size, not being able to reach stuff, so I mean, i suppose it is a real disadvantage I can imagine how humilitating it must feel if someone has to get a milkcrate to put in your garage so you can reach a shelf.

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Post by khazhoux »

Beaver117 wrote: post #50
khazhoux wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. I'm same height as guy in the article and no one has ever commented on my height at work (or, pretty much anywhere else). I think Scott had lots of other issues going on, but blames his height. Of course I would have liked to have been 6' and looked more like a "commanding leader" when I march into a room. Maybe it would have given me a career boost... but I could also get that from hitting the gym and bulki…

>I could also get that from hitting the gym and bulking up, or buying better-fitted clothes, or (heaven forbid) put more effort into my job! And what if you have done all that and are still mocked for your height?

I guess I'd say then he's just living amongst very, very shitty people. I don't know the right solution in that case.

My point is only that when height is a barrier, there are almost certainly other things that can be improved, with some effort.

(or, buy lifts, which is zero effort and effective for an inch or 1.5" boost)

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Post by pram »

rootusrootus wrote: post #56

This is the kind of surgery I might expect someone who is closer to 5 feet might use to get nearer to normal range. I'm pretty much average myself (71 inches) and I wouldn't look at a 67 inch tall guy and think "wow he's short." He's still taller than the vast majority of women. I think the money would be better spent on therapy if it really is that depressing to be 5'7". Also, anybody making short jokes is a jerk an…

They’re burying the lede on this story.

This guy runs an OnlyFans where he gets paid to dominate other men. He psychologically wants to be taller because he doesn’t feel like his (completely unremarkable) height is appropriately dominating.

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Post by omginternets »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #65
omginternets wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have, actually. That's the part where I agree with you. The point at which I disagree is when you imply that this is somehow comparable to institutionalized slavery and Jim Crow laws.

Me?

You seem to be defending the thesis in the original comment, so yes.

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Post by xeromal »

chrischen wrote: post #70
SnowHill9902 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that it shouldn’t be used in a derogatory manner, but it’s a fact that people have preferences in who they prefer to breed with. In fact that’s the reason why we are what we are in a positive way. You are being disingenuous or have genetic maladaptive screening of partners if you think otherwise and that maladaptation is naturally evolved away.

My point is that preferences are malleable and there is no objective reality or grounding in modern society for short stature being an undesirable trait (at least going forward). My hypothesis is that short stature historically has been attributed to malnutrition, and therefore destitution as well, which has shaped modern day preferences, but perception lags reality. EDIT: Also I should add that people are reading my…

I would say that past preferences are simpler than malnutrition. The biggest brute wins. People feel safe around bigger people if they're on their team. I met Thor Bjornson a few years ago and meeting him was terrifying. I can see that trait as being desirable just from a protection and safety perspective.

Like you said though, that's less necessary in this day and age.

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