Pretty cool. More companies should get inspired by this, especially the big corporate boys.
Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere
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#482Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I still can't believe there's no catch Do you believe that remote work is a net gain for society but is a net negative for many individuals?
I think this depends largely on whether you live alone. I would never go back to an office, even part time. One of my best friends lives by himself and struggled hard during the covid-induced requirement to work from home. Much like schools double as a day care for children, work often doubles as a social club for adults.
> Much like schools double as a day care for children, work often doubles as a social club for adults.
So what? 2 birds with one stone and all.
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#483Earlier quoted context omitted.
As far as I can understand it: 1 - I'm proud of having cheated Airbnb out of their commission when helping me find housing so I could live like a hipster 2 - I hate living next to Airbnb hipsters Needless to say: not a lot of coherent thought in that comment...
Eh, no. Airbnb rentals don't go for 3-6 months. (So what I was doing wouldn't have even been possible via their website). I wasn't "living like a hipster", I wasn't on a work-vacation. There was no "cheating" involved, since all the people who post on Airbnb also post on other websites, local and international. Airbnb just had a nicer map. It ain't cheating Airbnb if the landlord is happy to cut out the middleman. An…
I agree with some of the criticism towards you and also with some of your rebuttals, but one thing your above comment doesn't take into account is that you effectively are part of the problem still.
I've been a nomad for over a dozen years and usually find ways to rent medium-term, ex. 6-12 months (and in some cases, long-term). I do as you do, and integrate into society, speak the local language, etc. But even so, I am participating in taking local housing from locals because in some cases I know I'm paying an increased rate (vs local rate), or I'm using what otherwise would be used as an Airbnb for living.
I spent 5 yrs in Lisbon, while renting at local rates, as the city went from ungentrified to gentrified, so I considered it my home and loved the city. But I sat there and watched as it was ruined by tourism and the hoards of short-term visitors. That quality of life I loved so much was destroyed in front of my eyes. I even went back a few years later to try living there again and it was even worse than when I left. All I mean to say is that there is no winning as a nomad, either I'm greatly affected by short-term housing, tourism and gentrification or I'm helping it along.
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#484Earlier quoted context omitted.
90 days is the number agreed upon by company lawyers. Company lawyers do not have a sense of adventure, so this is a relatively watertight figure for most countries in the world and not dependent on your honesty.
I'm not sure when this 90-day rule was written, but I imagine it was written in a time before now with high-performance laptops, video conferencing, common jet travel, and people wanting to work 30 days here, 90 days there, 120 days over there, etc. This should be revisited. Also I think this is a good example of the need to have expiration dates on new laws and regulations. This should be something that expires and…
90 days is the standard tourist visa length for most countries, so it would be to match that.
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#485Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can visit for 90 days but what you're allowed to do is restricted to tourism and "temporary business". The US substantial presence test is actually something like 31 days in the current year, and ~180 calculated as a weighted sum of presence over all visits in the preceeding few years. That's just to determine if you should pay tax, and note that vacations to the US contribute. Whether you can legally work in the…
I propose people start reconsidering this imposed situation that exists between the people who do the work and the government, i.e. the parasitic ruling class. And to clarify, I say that as someone who is not at all “leftist” oriented, even though it may seem so at first glance of reading that to some. This situation we currently essentially globally have, at least in the west, is quite an abusive system that is real…
>What else do you call it
Something other than slavery, which is humans literally owned and treated as property. Maybe what it actually is, a skewed taxation system.
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#486"You can move anywhere in the country you work in and your compensation won’t change"
But if you move to a different country, suddenly the work you do is worth less to the company?
Roles should be paid for the skill and work required, not the location of the employee.
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#487Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can visit for 90 days but what you're allowed to do is restricted to tourism and "temporary business". The US substantial presence test is actually something like 31 days in the current year, and ~180 calculated as a weighted sum of presence over all visits in the preceeding few years. That's just to determine if you should pay tax, and note that vacations to the US contribute. Whether you can legally work in the…
> Most Europeans have access to things like cross border permits e.g. Switzerland/Germany and within the EU freedom of movement means it doesn't really matter much. You just register with the City Hall or wherever in your target country. This isn't as easy as it seems, even inside the EU. There are talks going on about laws regarding what constitutes "local hiring". Basically, the issue is that some companies hire pe…
> "visiting workers" (don't know the exact term)
the term is 'posted workers'
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#488Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually I think they were sufficiently self-deluded to believe that "increases collaboration" rap all along.
Hard to tell sometimes. Every now and again I meet some or that seems genuinely sincere while being corporate
Agreed. It's like they don't really know what they believe.
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#489I like that he specifically mentioned open floor plans. This is the number one reason why I don't want to return to the office. I kinda do want to go back. But I need my privacy and some quiet. I can't do the open floor plan ever again.
It always annoyed me that they couldn't even be honest and say it was save rent, they had to make it seem like open floor plan was a positive thing because it "increases collaboration" It's not enough you want to be cheap but you want to make it seem like you're doing it for our benefit.
Man I'd love a return to cubicles at the least. With enough space open floor plans can feel less terrible but sound just carries across these big open rooms.
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#490Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I did. The whole point is that I wasn't just a one-or-two-day ghost. I lived in these places for as I said 3-6 months (in one case almost a year). So I knew my neighbors, and treated them as I would neighbors in any other apartment I rented as a regular tenant. [edit] I should just add that I'm as embarrassed to make noise or screw with anyone's living space as a homeowner as I was as a tenant. I could make $400…
What it is that leads you to believe the 3-6 months thing is so significant? There are (a very small proportion of) AirBnB guests who are awful. There are (a very small proportion of) longer-term tenants who are awful. At least with AirBnB, the awful guests are gone after a couple of nights. I know some AirBnBs are used as party destinations, and that's different -- but it's a problem with those hosts, not with the p…
I think for me it's less about how well the renter behaves and more about the turnover rate: how often will I, as a neighbor, see a new face next door?
At 3-6 months, not often. At 1-7 days, quite often, which may give the feel of it being a hotel.