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Re: Rotary Un-Smartphone Kit

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I think there are shades of gray to be recognized between obstreperously "Retro" and obstreperously Luddite. There are still a significant cohort of people alive that grew up in the era where the rotary phone interface was the only phone interface. Using this device in public could be merely a nod and a wink to others in the same cohort and a nice conversation starter rather than a position against the advancement of…

Curious - Why "obstreperously "? I would've assumed something like "Ostentatiously" would've been the word; but I've seen "obstreperously" couple of times in this thread now, and had to look it up (it's a new word to me:) - seems to be "noisy and difficult to control", and that gives it a whole different, perhaps more negative slant? P.S. FWIW, in my limited experience, it is typically the most technologically savvy…

> P.S. FWIW, in my limited experience, it is typically the most technologically savvy amongst us that go through incredible effort to discover, purchase, setup, own, operate and integrate retro/Luddite devices in their lives

Oh, absolutely! Part of it is the enjoyment and skill to make something like that work (it's a non-trivial bit of programming to interface modern electronics with a rotary dialer, cell modem, audio codec, etc, and to have it all more or less work reliably).

The other part, though, I think is that people in those spaces see just how wrong everything has gone - the piles of complexity that never quite work, the constant data leaks, the invasion of privacy for surveillance profits, the fight for attention based on what's good for the company and not good for the users, etc. And a lot of us, myself included, want no part of that.

My wife and I spent last night on the couch listening through a wonderful recording of Handel's Messiah, on 4 quite heavy vinyl LPs. It was a great evening!

Re: Rotary Un-Smartphone Kit

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I have a couple of those around. I had to learn to dial them as a kid when we moved to a house that still had them hard-wired to the wall. Someday I'd like to try to use them as an intercom/hotline between the house and workshop, but I haven't figured out how to power the circuit and (especially) the ring signal. (Grandpa always did his own phone wiring and told me you really didn't want to be touching the terminal w…

Completely overkill for just an intercom, but an analog telephone adapter would let you connect those to a VoIP server (like Asterisk, etc). Could be cool. For just a hotline/intercom setup, I think a telephone line simulator might do the job, but those seem stupidly expensive! EDIT: The other reply seems a lot more knowledgeable, ignore this one

Thanks! I was looking into a line simulator, but yeah they're expensive!

I thought about setting something up with an old PBX from work, but they're too new for pulse dialing. I was trying to figure out if I could build something with old modems but never got anywhere with that.

Re: Rotary Un-Smartphone Kit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there are shades of gray to be recognized between obstreperously "Retro" and obstreperously Luddite. There are still a significant cohort of people alive that grew up in the era where the rotary phone interface was the only phone interface. Using this device in public could be merely a nod and a wink to others in the same cohort and a nice conversation starter rather than a position against the advancement of…

Curious - Why "obstreperously "? I would've assumed something like "Ostentatiously" would've been the word; but I've seen "obstreperously" couple of times in this thread now, and had to look it up (it's a new word to me:) - seems to be "noisy and difficult to control", and that gives it a whole different, perhaps more negative slant? P.S. FWIW, in my limited experience, it is typically the most technologically savvy…

I started the "obstreperously" thing in this thread, so I guess I'm honor-bound to explain. You've exactly pegged what I meant to communicate: loud, obnoxious, over-the-top obvious, like ostentatious, but no chance of being taken as non-annoying.

Re: Rotary Un-Smartphone Kit

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post #61

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Curious - Why "obstreperously "? I would've assumed something like "Ostentatiously" would've been the word; but I've seen "obstreperously" couple of times in this thread now, and had to look it up (it's a new word to me:) - seems to be "noisy and difficult to control", and that gives it a whole different, perhaps more negative slant? P.S. FWIW, in my limited experience, it is typically the most technologically savvy…

> P.S. FWIW, in my limited experience, it is typically the most technologically savvy amongst us that go through incredible effort to discover, purchase, setup, own, operate and integrate retro/Luddite devices in their lives Oh, absolutely! Part of it is the enjoyment and skill to make something like that work (it's a non-trivial bit of programming to interface modern electronics with a rotary dialer, cell modem, aud…

Thx; I suppose that's also why my fridge, microwave, tv and door lock are as dumb and unconnected as I can make them :->

I found a quote a while back - don't know the source - which sums up how many IT experts view IT:

"Non-magic users: collect crystals, call their pet a familiar, draw pentagrams.

Magic users:the most magical things I keep in my house are rocks, and I keep a hammer next to them in case they act up"

Re: Rotary Un-Smartphone Kit

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post #61

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> P.S. FWIW, in my limited experience, it is typically the most technologically savvy amongst us that go through incredible effort to discover, purchase, setup, own, operate and integrate retro/Luddite devices in their lives Oh, absolutely! Part of it is the enjoyment and skill to make something like that work (it's a non-trivial bit of programming to interface modern electronics with a rotary dialer, cell modem, aud…

Thx; I suppose that's also why my fridge, microwave, tv and door lock are as dumb and unconnected as I can make them :-> I found a quote a while back - don't know the source - which sums up how many IT experts view IT: "Non-magic users: collect crystals, call their pet a familiar, draw pentagrams. Magic users:the most magical things I keep in my house are rocks, and I keep a hammer next to them in case they act up"

I've seen the more directly tech version of that:

Tech Enthusiasts: Everything in my house is wired to the Internet of Things! I control it all from my smartphone! My smart-house is Bluetooth enabled and I can give it voice commands via Alexa! I love the future!

Programmers / Engineers: The most recent piece of technology I own is a printer from 2004 and I keep a loaded gun ready to shoot it if it ever makes an unexpected noise.

I'm definitely on the second half. We still have a Nest, but only because I've not convinced myself that the HestiaPi will actually run our system properly... and I can't get parts for it.

Re: Rotary Un-Smartphone Kit

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I have a couple of those around. I had to learn to dial them as a kid when we moved to a house that still had them hard-wired to the wall. Someday I'd like to try to use them as an intercom/hotline between the house and workshop, but I haven't figured out how to power the circuit and (especially) the ring signal. (Grandpa always did his own phone wiring and told me you really didn't want to be touching the terminal w…

Connecting two rotary phones (via 40 volt battery) is the easiest thing. They work as-they-are without modifications. When the phone is off-hook, the dialling rotator makes pulses and when the phone is on-hook those pulses cause the bell to ring. But not very loudly, because the real ringing pulses are 80 volts. Source: I am rotary-telephone-era Telecommunication Engineer.

Thanks for the info! Sounds a lot easier than anything I was imagining. I'll have to dig up a couple of those 4-pin sockets and see if I can source a battery.

Re: Rotary Un-Smartphone Kit

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for people who want to do something like this, not a cellphone but an actual desk phone, you can do it a lot cheaper if you want a rotary phone connected to modern phone networks.

there's various oldschool bell system type desk rotary phones on ebay for $35-60

and then add a pulse dial/rotary compatible ATA ($25-55) to speak SIP to asterisk or other standards-compliant voip systems. typically this will have a 100BaseTX ethernet interface.

the rest is just ordinary voip phone setup, assuming you have an asterisk or similar system to talk to, main limitation is the rotary phone obviously can't send DTMF tones.

http://www.classicrotaryphones.com/forum/index.php?topic=203...

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=pulse+d...

Re: Rotary Un-Smartphone Kit

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I’d love something like this that I could just dock my phone into when I get home, rather than needing a separate SIM. Especially if it had a nice receiver. Trying to actually talk on a cell phone is so much harder than it used to be when you could cradle the receiver in your shoulder.

that exists. here's one, probably not the only.

https://www.phonelabs.com/prd05.asp

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