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Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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Handshake has looked interesting for awhile now but what is the point of a blockchain based DNS? Isn't a big selling point of DNS having the fastest possible response times?

I had a bit of a disappointing moment recently when I found out that only top level domains are uncensorable in handshake. Such a let down.

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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post #90

This is an honest question because I really don’t get it: what problem does this solve, especially with regard to “distributed domains”?

DANE is a really big deal. It removes the dependency on TLS certificate authorities so self signed certificates can be used and verified via records, published in DNS and signed with DNSSEC.

Though I have greater concerns regarding privacy of the new browser. Is it like ungoogled-chromium? DANE should really be merged into upstream chromium.

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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post #90

This is an honest question because I really don’t get it: what problem does this solve, especially with regard to “distributed domains”?

The first thing I would think of is not having to trust random certificate authorities, which would avoid incidents like this [0].

Another problem with the current state of the web was explained in an article I read a few days ago [1].

[0]: https://slate.com/technology/2016/12/how-the-2011-hack-of-di...

[1]: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/09/website-domain-more...

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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post #93

Congrats on your accomplishment! However, I will never use it because a browser is one of those really important information gateways that I want to be very sure is not compromised.

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Unfortunately, the number of people qualified and with the time to do a source code review of something as complex as a browser, is very small.

For the vast majority of users that's not a realistic prospect...

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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Handshake has looked interesting for awhile now but what is the point of a blockchain based DNS? Isn't a big selling point of DNS having the fastest possible response times?

No, the selling point of DNS is mainly that everybody knows how to work with this bit of technology from the 1970s. Mostly it's fast because modern implementations do a lot of caching and only occasionally query parents in their hierarchy. You can use the same strategy to make pretty much any alternative implementation fast as well. And of course slapping some sort of DNS compatible facade on that is not rocket science either. So, you don't even lose the backwards compatibility. Better still, you can fall back to existing DNS too.

The key challenge with DNS is that it is hierarchical and that there's a root with an owner. That owner is an entity that we just have to trust to do the right things in terms of certificates, security, not censoring entries, implementing fair policies for allocating names, etc. Whether you trust the current owners is of course a bit political. Mostly I have no big issues with that myself but it is annoying to have to bribe certain companies for the privilege of using our registered trademark as a domain name. Literally the only service these companies deliver is 'maintaining' a record of that.

A blockchain can replace this with distributed ownership of a tamper proof ledger of ownership of domain names. Building an index of these names is not that hard. Any old search engine or database can do that. But the key part is administering ownership in a fair and transparent way.

It's one of those use cases where using a blockchain actually makes sense without devolving into some pyramid scheme for creating lots of wealth for some. When you think about it, existing DNS works exactly like a pyramid scheme (by design even). Millions of people are paying in the order of 10$ a year for a cheap database record in an ancient hierarchical database. The only value these companies deliver is monopolizing ownership of common endings like .com, .io, etc. And the only reason we need those is because it's an ancient hierarchical database.

With a blockchain, we get rid of those companies and potentially also the top level domains. I see no reason why google, twitter, etc. could not be top level domains.

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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post #32

i would like an open source browser that shares data collected from all its users. so the public can have access to the types of data google et al have.

> i would like an open source browser that shares data collected from all its users. so the public can have access to the types of data google et al have. That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. The public once got a hold of a sample of the anonymized searches of AOL customers and it didn't take long for individuals to get identified. The amount of data google has on people goes far beyond the things they sear…

> "I'm pretty sure that if the data google has were ever made available to the public, as soon as the first congress person reviewed their own dossier we'd see laws passed very quickly banning the use of that data and perhaps even preventing it from being collected in the first place."

And now consider the alternative world, the one we happen to live in, where it's all private unless it somehow ends up getting "hacked" or "leaked" to the public, indirectly of course. And it'd be a shame if that happened wouldn't it Mr. Senator.

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