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Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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I have a question about blockchain DNS's. This might be the time to ask!

There is a centralization aspect in any DNS, blockchain or otherwise in that, literally to be useful, there needs to be consensus about which chain operators own which .{name} extensions for a given name. Which makes financial incentive for say an investor to 'bribe' browsers into using their DNS, which then charges money to end users, which er... feels a lot like the DNS we have.

I think that "true" decentralization might come from nameless "domain". If a domain is a SHA256 hash with no name, then with QR Codes and search engines and hyperlinks it doesn't matter as much that they are not memorable (we managed with nameless phone numbers, right!). Hash providers can be any chain, and then your job as a browser is to add as many mainstream chains as possible (there is no need to decide who is the 'official' one, or rank them, so Ethereum is no better than Dogecoin) as hash collisions are practically impossible.

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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Congrats on the launch. I think this indirectly slowed down the foreverdomains server with the HN traffic. Since you advertise "decentralized internet" vs blockchain, I'd love to see this also support some more non-blockchain protocols such as Dat ( https://dat.foundation/ ) and IPFS directly. Maybe even Bittorrent and Tor (Onion router). It may already do some of that, I just couldn't tell from your wording.

Don't forget the boys at the Oxen network and their Session program. Phenomenal work, better than Tor

This looks really interesting. It looks like their lokinet uses an onion router though or am I misinterpreting the "better than Tor" here?

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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Why are you swallowing "error" from invoking the "reall" tool? That seems like a great way to make contributors really frustrated: https://github.com/imperviousinc/beacon/blob/main/tools/src/... and again https://github.com/imperviousinc/beacon/blob/main/tools/src/... This trend of "I'm going to invent some build tool because there are not enough build tools in the world" is evidently leaking out of the node ecosyste…

> Why are you swallowing "error" from invoking the "reall" tool? That seems like a great way to make contributors really frustrated Glad you're looking at the code! There's still some refactoring needed for butil. It will get more polished soon ;) > This trend of "I'm going to invent some build tool because there are not enough build tools in the world" is evidently leaking out of the node ecosystem butil applies str…

It may be "statically typed" but from a consumer's PoV, 100% opaque. My first question when trying to build any project is "what is this going to do to my machine" and with some golang based build system, you're asking for a lot of trust on two different levels: 1. go install something (so now I need to read its source) 2. oh, turns out it actually delegates to an entirely separate binary that I now need to separately read

And I hear you about "but scripting!!1", however, using one of the existing tools means there is a non-zero chance of someone having experience with them and maybe even having reasonable editor support for it

It's your project, so I know I'm just some rando on the Internet, but I wanted to make sure you were choosing the contribution path you wanted to build upon, and not just hacking something together for expedience that then has to be unwound later. In this specific case, that goes double because it already has tight coupling to GN due to Chromium

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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i would like an open source browser that shares data collected from all its users. so the public can have access to the types of data google et al have.

> i would like an open source browser that shares data collected from all its users. so the public can have access to the types of data google et al have.

That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. The public once got a hold of a sample of the anonymized searches of AOL customers and it didn't take long for individuals to get identified. The amount of data google has on people goes far beyond the things they search for or the sites they visit. A web browser that publishes everyone's browsing habits for the public would also get collected by data brokers and 'google et al' to be exploited for their own gain. Who would sign up to use that?

I'm pretty sure that if the data google has were ever made available to the public, as soon as the first congress person reviewed their own dossier we'd see laws passed very quickly banning the use of that data and perhaps even preventing it from being collected in the first place. I imagine any popular browser or project exposing their users similarly would have the same problem.

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