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Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

#72
post #32

i would like an open source browser that shares data collected from all its users. so the public can have access to the types of data google et al have.

> i would like an open source browser that shares data collected from all its users. so the public can have access to the types of data google et al have. That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. The public once got a hold of a sample of the anonymized searches of AOL customers and it didn't take long for individuals to get identified. The amount of data google has on people goes far beyond the things they sear…

either the data collection should be banned or everyone should have access. why should monopolies like google and those who can afford access to data brokers get to extend their power indefinitely? why do people support snowden's leaks but no one is leaking similar shit from google? it can be a payment for releasing your data publicly if people don't want to give it up for free.

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

#73
post #60

DANE is really interesting. Wider adoption would be good for everyone I think. I’m going to have to give this a try.

The problem with DANE is that it doesn't move us away from CAs, it just conflates the role of running a DNS zone with also being a CA. And even CAs may be problematic, the entities running DNS zones are often more so.

If you own a DNS zone, you should be the only one with the authority to issue certificates for it. That is what Handshake+DANE does.

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

#74

Congrats on the launch. I think this indirectly slowed down the foreverdomains server with the HN traffic. Since you advertise "decentralized internet" vs blockchain, I'd love to see this also support some more non-blockchain protocols such as Dat ( https://dat.foundation/ ) and IPFS directly. Maybe even Bittorrent and Tor (Onion router). It may already do some of that, I just couldn't tell from your wording.

https://dat.foundation/> is apparently deprecated in favour of https://dat-ecosystem.org/> which is impressive since it only became the dat foundation in december 2019 ...

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

#75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard is underselling it. At this point it’s borderline impossible. It’s unlikely we will ever see a new browser.

Why, licensing/proprietary issues?

That's one. Just look at some of the specs that have to be implemented. There are so many most devs have probably never even heard of. It's really mind boggling the amount of work required to create a full browser from scratch.

List of web APIs: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API Canvas API spec: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/canvas.html

Take one look at the docs for just rendering text and any sane developer would probably give up: https://www.w3.org/TR/css-text-3/

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

#76

I have a question about blockchain DNS's. This might be the time to ask! There is a centralization aspect in any DNS, blockchain or otherwise in that, literally to be useful, there needs to be consensus about which chain operators own which .{name} extensions for a given name. Which makes financial incentive for say an investor to 'bribe' browsers into using their DNS, which then charges money to end users, which er.…

If you are going to use an immemorable hash instead of a memorable name, why not use IP directly?

There could be several immemorable hashes pointed at the same IP, the server needs to know which immemorable hash it should serve.

(don't think this makes much sense, just answering your question...)

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

#77
post #74

Congrats on the launch. I think this indirectly slowed down the foreverdomains server with the HN traffic. Since you advertise "decentralized internet" vs blockchain, I'd love to see this also support some more non-blockchain protocols such as Dat ( https://dat.foundation/ ) and IPFS directly. Maybe even Bittorrent and Tor (Onion router). It may already do some of that, I just couldn't tell from your wording.

https://dat.foundation/ > is apparently deprecated in favour of https://dat-ecosystem.org/ > which is impressive since it only became the dat foundation in december 2019 ...

dat ecosystem though

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

#78
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> i would like an open source browser that shares data collected from all its users. so the public can have access to the types of data google et al have. That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. The public once got a hold of a sample of the anonymized searches of AOL customers and it didn't take long for individuals to get identified. The amount of data google has on people goes far beyond the things they sear…

either the data collection should be banned or everyone should have access. why should monopolies like google and those who can afford access to data brokers get to extend their power indefinitely? why do people support snowden's leaks but no one is leaking similar shit from google? it can be a payment for releasing your data publicly if people don't want to give it up for free.

You're right, it should be banned. It should not be legal to covertly(through trackers running on every website, effectively spyware) catalogue people's browsing habits like that.

Although I'll give you this. A massive leak might stir up the public outrage necessary to convince the US Congress to actually do something about it.

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

#79
post #39
post #8

Not to be confused with the other impervious browser: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30968715

Yikes, what a naming collision given the "blockchain-y" tone underlying both uses of that name

To be fair, this one is called Beacon, Impervious is just the name of the developer. Not that much of a collision imo...

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

#80
Is DNS really a problem with respect to 'centralization'?

Where is the harm being caused?

Where are the risks of harm?

What are systematic negative effects?

And if those can be articulated, are blockchain resolutions a solution to those problems?

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