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My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by bell-cot »

cortesoft wrote: post #457
bell-cot wrote: post #55

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This +10. For the vast majority of users, having 25Gbit/sec home fiber is like having a 250 MPH-capable supercar. Big, bad bragging rights. Token-at-best use cases.

Depends on how many people are in your house. You can’t have 5 people driving at 50 MPH with that supercar, but you can with the internet connection.

5 people in my house, each using 5Gbit/s, sounds far more like the grandkids playing a "mine's faster than yours" game than like any "real world" usage scenario. Similar for 10 people each using 2.5Gbit/sec, or 25 people each using 1Gbit/sec, or ...

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Post by the_biot »

nine_k wrote: post #426
arcade79 wrote: post #397

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What exactly is insane about it? I was surprised when my parents had 1Gbit in 2009. I was delighted when I could get 500Mbit in 2013. I'm slightly miffed that I don't even get 1Gbit in 2022. I literally laugh at providers attempting to convince me to get whatever with 10 or 20Mbit uplink speeds, in 2022l Yes, they exist. Anyhow. What's insane about a 10Gbit uplink? I wired up my apartment for 1Gbit in 2001. I've been…

At home you are free to make everything 10G-capable, have a NAS that can saturate such a link, etc. On the wider internet, few resources are happy to dedicate such bandwidth to you, even if you can consume it. Not even every popular torrent can muster so much incoming bandwidth. I can see how it may make sense if you run a popular public server from your home; maybe more convenient than colocation, but still is not a…

You can look at it as too much for anyone's needs, or you can see it as enabling tomorrow's applications. Looking back, or looking forward.

Back in the dialup days, nobody in their right mind would run a torrent, or play online shooters, or watch streaming HD video -- such things were utterly impractical over ultra slow links with very high latency. Once people started getting broadband, these applications started appearing.

Of course we need faster links into people's homes. Of course under-1Gbit links into homes in 2022 are ridiculous.

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Post by lostcolony »

dale_glass wrote: post #244
lostcolony wrote: post #37

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Yeah; there really aren't any great use cases I can think of for more than 1 gbps to the home at the moment. A 4k stream runs ~25 mbps, a 100 GB game download will tend to cap out before saturating the connection and still take ~15 minutes (hardly a wasted evening if you have to wait for it). At 2 Gbps, if you actually saturated the connection downloading something, you'd better have an SDD, since you'll be downloadi…

How about remote work? Back when covid19 started, we all went home, the office closed, and then we had a server failure. And I spent multiple days downloading stuff to back it up before reinstalling the machine, because there was not enough spare storage inside the office. If you work with VM disk images even 1 Gbps starts feeling a tad sluggish.

What about remote work? Why the heck are you downloading stuff to hardware located -at your house-, and not a datacenter, another office, the cloud (someone else's datacenter :P), etc?

I work with VMs. Disk images stay in the datacenter, and occasionally get sent between datacenters. They don't live at my house.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by cortesoft »

bell-cot wrote: post #501
cortesoft wrote: post #457

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Depends on how many people are in your house. You can’t have 5 people driving at 50 MPH with that supercar, but you can with the internet connection.

5 people in my house, each using 5Gbit/s, sounds far more like the grandkids playing a "mine's faster than yours" game than like any "real world" usage scenario. Similar for 10 people each using 2.5Gbit/sec, or 25 people each using 1Gbit/sec, or ...

I routinely need to download 50gigs of updates from Steam. I hate having to wait for them, it would be nice if it took seconds.

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Post by wdb »

Amazing, I can't even get 100mbit+ here in West London. the only way I can get faster internet is to pay a lot of money to get private fibre. I did see G.Network digging around near me. I am wondering if they easily support Mews houses

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Post by kingcharles »

arcade79 wrote: post #406
kingcharles wrote: post #260

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AT&T called me. They said their technical guys think they might be able to upgrade the connection to my building from 1.5Mbps to 3Mbps if I want to sign-up with them. I'm in downtown Chicago.

I really, really hope you told them to fuck the hell off.

The guy on the phone was so cool. He was totally "in" on how hilariously awful it was that they could only get 1.5Mbps into my building. He had access to the system that let him see all the contracts of my neighbors and what connections they had and was floored that every building next me had gigabit.

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Post by lostmsu »

dougmwne wrote: post #263
404mm wrote: post #242

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That’s nice!! $40/mo? That does not sound like US price.

There's a 10 Gbit cable going in on my street for $60/month in Florida. Some interesting things happening in internet infrastructure these days.

What street? Are schools any good?

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Post by lostmsu »

Tepix wrote: post #304
AndyPa32 wrote: post #274

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I live in Germany. Enjoying 10 Mbit/s downstrean and 1 Mbit/s upstream. For 30 Euros per month. 80 would be like heaven for me.

Well, elsewhere in Germany you can get 2.5GBit/s fiber...

Berlin?

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Post by dghlsakjg »

goatsi wrote: post #209
dghlsakjg wrote: post #142

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Have you looked at smaller ISPs? I live in rural BC and I'm was able to get 80Mb for $35 using a no-name internet only provider with no contract. If I went with one of the big cable companies I would be paying at least double for the same thing

How is your internet provisioned? Is the no-name ISP building their own infrastructure or are they using the network of a larger one?

In Canada the infrastructure owners are required to give access to small providers at a regulated price.

So my internet is provided by Lightspeed on Shaw cable.

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Post by dghlsakjg »

FractalParadigm wrote: post #277
dghlsakjg wrote: post #142

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Have you looked at smaller ISPs? I live in rural BC and I'm was able to get 80Mb for $35 using a no-name internet only provider with no contract. If I went with one of the big cable companies I would be paying at least double for the same thing

I've looked at the smaller ISPs in my area and they're terrible as far as pricing goes. Both the "major" options are still using Rogers' last-mile infrastructure, they offer poorer customer service (because of the previous point), charge the same or more money for the same level of service and offer no real incentive to switch. Having talked to some techs at TekSavvy, none of the smaller ISPs can offer anything inter…

Yeah the last mile stuff is still owned by the majors, but at least the choice exists.

As much as Canadian telecom seems to own the CRTC it isn’t nearly as consumer unfriendly as when I lived in the US.

I had an apartment in downtown Seattle which had 2 choices for internet. Many of my friends were quite impressed since most addresses are only served by one ISP.

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