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Facebook’s ranking for app downloads drops to new record low

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Re: Facebook’s ranking for app downloads drops to new record low

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I don’t think this necessarily means anything. App download count will always favor newer apps that are still in their growth stage (TikTok is a good example of this). Facebook is post growth stage and is probably at the point where it’s already hit, or close to hitting its peak market share. Most Facebook users have already installed the app and only ever need to reinstall it if they switch phones. Those that haven’…

I don’t know—I still have a Facebook account, grudgingly, but I long ago removed the app from my phone. And I hear more and more people say that they’ve done the same. Facebook has a deeper problem than slowing user base growth. A lot of existing users view the service as a necessary evil at best, to be kept in a kind of containment.

I basically only open it to see what's happening locally, and always in a Firefox container.

Re: Facebook’s ranking for app downloads drops to new record low

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Why does it have any downloads at all? Isn't it pre-installed on almost every new phone? Does the download-chart consider the pe-installed ones, e.g., though updates?

It is on Samsung phones and it pisses me off because there's no effective way from removing it short of rooting the device. Being able to "disable" it isn't good enough, I don't want their shitty apps on my phone - period. I'll be looking at other options next time I upgrade.

Re: Facebook’s ranking for app downloads drops to new record low

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the eyes of Wall Street, it's all about growth. Facebook continues to be among the Top 3 or Top 5 apps in installed base but if you're not growing at the same pace as before, it's bad.

Facebook is obviously not likely to significantly grow their user base at this stage. There’s only so many people. Wall Street doesn’t expect them to do the impossible.

Or does it? Wall Street tends to do irrational stuff, and besides, there are still about four billion people in the world without a Facebook account, so there’s still room to grow.

Re: Facebook’s ranking for app downloads drops to new record low

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post #23

Why does it have any downloads at all? Isn't it pre-installed on almost every new phone? Does the download-chart consider the pe-installed ones, e.g., though updates?

It is on Samsung phones and it pisses me off because there's no effective way from removing it short of rooting the device. Being able to "disable" it isn't good enough, I don't want their shitty apps on my phone - period. I'll be looking at other options next time I upgrade.

Actually there is. Enable dev mode on the phone and uninstall the fb apps via adb shell. It is usually rhe first thing I do on a Samsung phone. See: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-how-to-remove-faceb...

Re: Facebook’s ranking for app downloads drops to new record low

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post #5

I don’t think this necessarily means anything. App download count will always favor newer apps that are still in their growth stage (TikTok is a good example of this). Facebook is post growth stage and is probably at the point where it’s already hit, or close to hitting its peak market share. Most Facebook users have already installed the app and only ever need to reinstall it if they switch phones. Those that haven’…

I’d be more interested to see the Messenger stats. The FB site fulfils most if not all use cases of the app, other than notifications, so it’s entirely unnecessary for an occasional user to keep it rather than just using a browser.

However, they’ve made some annoying changes to Messenger that force you to download the app for basic things like checking your marketplace messages, even if you have no desire to interact via that app.

Re: Facebook’s ranking for app downloads drops to new record low

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook is obviously not likely to significantly grow their user base at this stage. There’s only so many people. Wall Street doesn’t expect them to do the impossible.

Or does it? Wall Street tends to do irrational stuff, and besides, there are still about four billion people in the world without a Facebook account, so there’s still room to grow.

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Re: Facebook’s ranking for app downloads drops to new record low

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post #5

I don’t think this necessarily means anything. App download count will always favor newer apps that are still in their growth stage (TikTok is a good example of this). Facebook is post growth stage and is probably at the point where it’s already hit, or close to hitting its peak market share. Most Facebook users have already installed the app and only ever need to reinstall it if they switch phones. Those that haven’…

It does mean exactly what you laid out here and took as obvious —- many investors and shareholders did not —- that this is an indicator that Facebook is in post-growth. This is news because as little as 12 months ago people would’ve had spirited disagreements about this, but as more evidence emerges we see more and more nails in the coffin.

Re: Facebook’s ranking for app downloads drops to new record low

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post #5

I don’t think this necessarily means anything. App download count will always favor newer apps that are still in their growth stage (TikTok is a good example of this). Facebook is post growth stage and is probably at the point where it’s already hit, or close to hitting its peak market share. Most Facebook users have already installed the app and only ever need to reinstall it if they switch phones. Those that haven’…

that would be true if people never change their phones

that also mean young generation doesn't participate in maintaining the rate of new installs

facebook dies by demography

Re: Facebook’s ranking for app downloads drops to new record low

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Facebook was the most used monthly mobile app worldwide Q12022. WhatsApp was the second. Instagram was the third. I bet the fourth will blow your mind... It's Facebook Messenger.

Do you have a source for this? I find it hard to believe.
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