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Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by technothrasher »

SapporoChris wrote: post #347
technothrasher wrote: post #270

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I switched recently from years of Android usage simply because the car I wanted to buy only supported CarPlay. I could either give up Android or give up the car. I chose to keep the car. Now that I’ve had the iPhone a while, there seem to be about the same number of annoyances in iOS as there were with Android, they’re just different. I think I’d give the edge to Android, iOS is slightly more annoying, but not enough…

Do I understand correctly that your car determined your smartphone choice? Furthermore you considered changing your vehicle selection based on your current smartphone? I find the concept of a smartphone affecting a transportation decision or the reverse to be highly unusual. Can you please explain your rational? For example, do you spend excessive amount of time in your car? Do you do specific tasks from your car tha…

Yes, my choice of car determined my smartphone choice. I decided I was more interested in the particular vehicle (Porsche Macan) than the particular smartphone (Pixel 5a vs iPhone 13). Both CarPlay and Android Auto are worlds better than the OEM head unit software crap I've found in any of the cars I've owned (Audi, Porsche, VW, Ford, Chevy, Kia) for both navigation and music/podcast listening. I was hesitant to switch, but I figured it was an easier choice to back out of than a car purchase. And six months later, I think I made the right choice. While I still would prefer Android, I'm ok enough with the iPhone that I'm not bothered day to day with it.

Apparently next year the Macan is getting Android Auto support, so people in the future won't need to make the choice. But I was in need of a car this year, so I had to make the choice.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by nameisname »

technothrasher wrote: post #421
SapporoChris wrote: post #347

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Do I understand correctly that your car determined your smartphone choice? Furthermore you considered changing your vehicle selection based on your current smartphone? I find the concept of a smartphone affecting a transportation decision or the reverse to be highly unusual. Can you please explain your rational? For example, do you spend excessive amount of time in your car? Do you do specific tasks from your car tha…

Yes, my choice of car determined my smartphone choice. I decided I was more interested in the particular vehicle (Porsche Macan) than the particular smartphone (Pixel 5a vs iPhone 13). Both CarPlay and Android Auto are worlds better than the OEM head unit software crap I've found in any of the cars I've owned (Audi, Porsche, VW, Ford, Chevy, Kia) for both navigation and music/podcast listening. I was hesitant to swit…

My $10k Toyota Corolla has android auto. What happened?

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by howinteresting »

cookie_monsta wrote: post #415
Kye wrote: post #269

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Either you have especially pliant friends, or you've never tried to do this.

Agreed. It's not just convincing all (or even most) of your friends, it's getting them to convince all their friends to switch (and so on)

It is OK to use multiple apps to chat with your friends.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by simulate-me »

Rufhfhs3747rhe7 wrote: post #367
shrimp_emoji wrote: post #309

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WhatsApp? What is this, 2010? It's all about Discord now bb (who refused to be bought by Microsoft BD)

Has Discord become the dominant platform for bilateral messaging anywhere? I've never heard it being used outside of crypto and gaming chat rooms.

We use Discord at a small startup. It's nice because we can easily get our external clients on and make rooms for giving them customer support without going through the janky slack process. We also have public channels so people can come by and report bugs or ask for help. Highly recommend Discord. It's a great product.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by cookie_monsta »

howinteresting wrote: post #423
cookie_monsta wrote: post #415

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Agreed. It's not just convincing all (or even most) of your friends, it's getting them to convince all their friends to switch (and so on)

It is OK to use multiple apps to chat with your friends.

Sure... until the day you want to set up a group chat

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by stjohnswarts »

danuker wrote: post #141
tomtheelder wrote: post #85

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I switched recently, and honestly have found the experience on iPhone to broadly be worse. There are a few things that are a bit nicer, but the downgrade in the notifications system alone just tanks the experience. That said I switched for mostly privacy reasons, so won't be going back.

How is a completely proprietary OS more private? I think LineageOS is the most private.

Probably from the sense of sharing of location/identifying information/etc that Apple makes much easier to set and less likely to be circumvented by apps. Apple also does not sell your information, buying habits, etc to 3rd parties like google does. Apple makes money on the hardware and software they sell you. Google makes money on ads and selling your information to 3rd parties.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by stjohnswarts »

criddell wrote: post #308
sylens wrote: post #157

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I have no idea if they will try it again someday, but I would love to see Microsoft give this another go. I think strong messaging about "quality over quantity" of apps would actually be a boon to them. I never go looking in the App Store for new apps anymore - just give me my video streamers, a Reddit client, Spotify, Slack, Discord, and Signal and I'm good to go.

Google seems like they have lost a lot of their Android enthusiasm. I could see them making a deal with Microsoft for Android.

Does google have enthusiasm for anything anymore other than ads and search? Maybe cloud services? I would be afraid to use anything but open source tools on their cloud service given the kill rate they have for products...

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by stjohnswarts »

lawl wrote: post #35
dmead wrote: post #21

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Is it seriously worth it for people to do stuff like this? I remember when stallman said he was giving the one laptop per child program a shot. Since the drivers for the wifi were non free he used some USB device instead. Last I read that lasted a few months because he got sick of it. I can't imagine adding all those steps to use a smartphone is any less annoying.

> Is it seriously worth it for people to do stuff like this? For the vast majority, it probably isn't. Also, I'm not full RMS since I would consider using an iPhone which definitely has closed-source components :) I don't think it would be that much of a hassle to me, since I already don't use a lot of the "nice" apps etc. The way most people use their phone is quite alien to me. E.g. I much prefer old.reddit.com ove…

there are plenty of free reddit apps that don't have banners or "buy me" ads.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by scotty79 »

lumb63 wrote: post #7

I’m not surprised. I used Android devoutly, had a Galaxy S4, then an S8 when that started showing its age. I upgraded to an iPhone 12 when AT&T ran the promotion to get a free one. I wanted to keep liking Android. The amount of time I spent arguing vehemently that Android was superior made the switch hard, but several factors came into play for me: - Extremely slow and fragmented upgrade of OS. This resulted in subst…

> Specifically, I am envious of the people who have 120 FPS phones, they’re beautiful.

That's super surprising. I bought 120fps Phone back in 2019 and it still works great and I can't imagine using anything below 120fps since then.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by danmur »

Nimitz14 wrote: post #339
tasuki wrote: post #274

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I'm well outside the US (Eastern Europe) and have never needed WhatsApp. I can talk with all the people I know over Google Hangouts or Facebook Messenger. Perhaps it's also an age thing? I guess the youngsters use WhatsApp.

Whatsapp is the number one app in most EU countries. It's not age but the fact youve clearly never socialized outside of your country (or with foreigners).

It's really interesting reading these comments. I'm in Australia, more of my friends use iphone (but it's close), nobody I know uses iMessage though, everyone uses WhatsApp. I had to go read about iMessage to understand the context here. Not a fan of Google but this stuff is not endearing me to apple at all.
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