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Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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That’s up to the developer, the APIs have existed for 2ish years I think. I reply to texts and Slack messages through notifications. There are limits, but it’s not display only like it used to be.

I have yet to see a single interactive notification. What settings do you have to configure to get Slack to let you reply from a notification?

I reply to slack notification on Apple Watch with dictation or canned message. Reply on phone just opens slack.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Is it unusual in the U.S. to carry two phones? I've had a work provided phone and a personal phone for a long time and so most of the people I know. Sometimes I've had a work iPhone and a personal Android, and now a work Android and a personal older iPhone.

The two-phone solution seems to be giving way to BYOD. I haven’t carried a second device in years.

Our telco salespeople must be really happy for selling two phones to each of us here.

How does it work in NDA'd work environments? Like when company's information can't leave company's devices? Is BYOD accepted in those cases? Like with MDM managed phone or workspace separation?

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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I’m not surprised. I used Android devoutly, had a Galaxy S4, then an S8 when that started showing its age. I upgraded to an iPhone 12 when AT&T ran the promotion to get a free one. I wanted to keep liking Android. The amount of time I spent arguing vehemently that Android was superior made the switch hard, but several factors came into play for me: - Extremely slow and fragmented upgrade of OS. This resulted in subst…

- Extremely slow and fragmented upgrade of OS. This resulted in substantially older features and security patches. Samsung phones does 4 years of updates now. - Privacy. iMessage’s encryption (though I stand by that it is gimmicky to only offer for iPhones, and I despise that) has a serious network effect. Apple is also far more transparent in what data they use, how they use it, etc. iMessage? Everyone here (Scandin…

> Samsung phones does 4 years of updates now.

That's terrible.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Android may get an upswing once it finally adopts Fuschia with a "classic" Android compatibility layer (at least that's what I think they will do). But they will certainly have to push for devices with longer support than 3 years to keep that upswing.

Could you explain your comment? I don’t really follow android development. Was Fuschia the new OS Google was writing from scratch? Why do you think that will make a big difference?

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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It's pick your poison. The only reason I'm still on android is because at least I can (still) have root there. I'm saying still because of safety net. But if apple let me have root, i'd probably prefer an Apple over Google. Mobile phones and their user hostility is a cancer. I'm seriously considering using a full GNU/Linux handheld for mobile things i can do in a browser, and keep an android phone for app garbage tha…

"If you don't have a root privilege on your device - this is not your device" But even without root I can side load an app via APK on Android. This way my Telegram messenger almost always a version ahead Google Play.

> But even without root I can side load an app via APK on Android.

What about getting rid of the preinstalled "system" bloatware that may be present and outside of your control to remove without root?

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Even the Pixel software just feels like a knock-off of iOS. Same UI paradigms, gestures, etc but everything feels cheaper.

They are both copying each other.

I don't think that was his point. Companies take features from competitors all the time.

But even with that "feature sharing", Android's flagship phone still feels like more of a knockoff compared to any iPhone.

Having owned every Pixel and the Nexus predecessors, they have about a 3 year lifespan, software is slow and freezes start after a few updates, the battery isn't great to start but shits out after year 2, then oled burn-ins.

But I got $5 for my Nexus 6P bootloop class action settlement, so there's that I guess...

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Call me crazy, but I think there is room for a third platform. Especially if this platform was bootstrapped in a smart way, for example with an emulation layer to be able to run applications from Android. Or perhaps WebAssembly will make it viable to do more things from a (mobile) browser. I really miss the N700-N9 series with Maemo and Meego. It was so elegant and simple.

I have no idea if they will try it again someday, but I would love to see Microsoft give this another go. I think strong messaging about "quality over quantity" of apps would actually be a boon to them. I never go looking in the App Store for new apps anymore - just give me my video streamers, a Reddit client, Spotify, Slack, Discord, and Signal and I'm good to go.

Google seems like they have lost a lot of their Android enthusiasm. I could see them making a deal with Microsoft for Android.

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It's been mentioned before in other articles, but I don't think it can be understated how much iMessage makes it difficult to be the "odd man out" if you're on an Android phone. And it's not just about teenagers, and it's not about "green bubbles". I recently went on a vacation with friends, 4 other folks on iPhones and me on an Android. Our group chat experience almost made me consider getting an iPhone. The inabili…

As much as I hate promoting Facebook products, "let's make a WhatsApp group" seems to be the socially-acceptable solution to this. Everybody has it installed and always seems to be happy to switch communication over to it if somebody in the group suggests it.

WhatsApp?

What is this, 2010? It's all about Discord now bb (who refused to be bought by Microsoft BD)

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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I’m not surprised. I used Android devoutly, had a Galaxy S4, then an S8 when that started showing its age. I upgraded to an iPhone 12 when AT&T ran the promotion to get a free one. I wanted to keep liking Android. The amount of time I spent arguing vehemently that Android was superior made the switch hard, but several factors came into play for me: - Extremely slow and fragmented upgrade of OS. This resulted in subst…

The 13 pro iPhone line is 120hz
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