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My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #232

What's impressive to me here is not the capacity but the price for the capacity. At allegedly 777 CHF per year this is a steal so far removed from my reality it's obscene.

And Init7 is solid quality (and probably the perfect ISP for people who like to have fun with their network), but not exactly cheap for Zurich. You can get like 10Gb/s for half the price with other ISPs.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Firstly … 25Gbit symmetrical … WOW. Secondly - as a person living my whole life in IT - both passion and professionally - I have no idea what would 25Gbit be good for. I’m currently paying about $80 for symmetrical 1Gbit fiber and have the option to upgrade to 5Gbit for about $180 but it seems so pointless. Here is the reasoning behind my grumpy opinion: 1. Living in a home with Cat5 throughout so the best I can do i…

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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #191

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I’ve never heard someone call their own country a “third world country”. Out of curiosity, which country are you referring to?

This is term is commonly misused as it originally referred to countries beyond the Cold War's NATO/USSR denominations. Today the parent likely refers to a country in the global south or a "developing" nation. I'm from what used to be a third-world country in the strict sense of term, I'd now refer to my country as a country in the global south.

I think you have successfully illustrated the failure of "global south" as a replacement term.

I'm not against replacing "third world", but something with the word "south" is ambiguous and counterintuitive.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #90

25Gb/s is just overkill for residential use. It's really cool that's it's available, but I fail to see a use case over my 500Mb/s home connection. Even for the servers that I manage and that are bandwidth-heavy, 10Gb/s is way overprovisioned for now. WiFi goes up to 1Gb/s, if you're lucky. Sure, some WiFi-6 APs have a 2.5Gb/s connector, but that's not what you want or need, unless you're a high-density enterprise. Wi…

640K Ought to be enough for anyone ;)

Granted, it's beyond the definition of overkill (but I wouldn't mind it!)

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #271

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It isn't a geographical denomination, but rather socioeconomic and political. Most of the countries in the global south denomination are actually in the northern hemisphere.

That seems like bad jargon.

Most people's mental map has basically all of Africa in the southern hemisphere, but geographically that is far from the case.

We have 195 countries in the world and only 33 of those are entirely on the southern hemisphere.

Here is one example of an illustrative map:

https://i.redd.it/w2tv9dda1xzy.png

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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The maximum speed available at my London address is 35 mbps download and 5.5 mbps upload. It hasn't changed in the seven years I've been living here. The best mobile connection I get is two bars of 3G unless it rains.

Oh boy I feel for you. Is it because of the house/street or a general issue in London?

It's not typical for London. Not that extreme anyway. I think our postcode is among 2% or 3% left without a fiber connection. Many others have 100 mbps or so (I try not to look what they really get :)

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is term is commonly misused as it originally referred to countries beyond the Cold War's NATO/USSR denominations. Today the parent likely refers to a country in the global south or a "developing" nation. I'm from what used to be a third-world country in the strict sense of term, I'd now refer to my country as a country in the global south.

I think you have successfully illustrated the failure of "global south" as a replacement term. I'm not against replacing "third world", but something with the word "south" is ambiguous and counterintuitive.

It isn't as much as a replacement term, but you make a fair point that is doesn't translate well. It is both jargon and a loaded concept, which can be confusing when taken literally and without understanding what it aims to represent.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Swisscom customer (and employee) here, opinions are my own of course. They recently called me to upgrade my fiber connection from 1 Gbps to 10Gbps for free (every customer with a compatible connection gets it, AFAIK). I have to admit that, although the network is indeed faster (on the speed tests and file transfers), I really don't see the point quite yet. Considering that: - Most of the devices I use are anyways con…

My ethernet is also capped at 1 Gb/s for most of my computers. The 10 Gb/s connection is still useful as it makes sure that things running at different devices won't affect each other. Streaming won't affect games won't affect work-related video calls. It's great.

The last time i streamed 4K video while gaming on my PS4 during a work related video calls was just a couple days ago.

Joke aside. I get your point, but how many people do you have to have on a single 1 Gbit line to saturdate it? Some things will get faster for sure (like downloading large files, if the other side is fast enough), but I feel like most of the time it's driving a Ferrari within a city.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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> Being from a third world country, I completely agree with you on how technological investment can change lives. Being from a soon north korea 2.0 to be (russia,) I can say it was my surprise to see Internet being so bad across the developed countries when I was travelling in the previous decade. Canada - ridiculously expensive traffic, Germany - no comments, UK - sometimes good, sometimes 128kbps DSL, USA - 20mbps…

A lot of it is down to those countries being early adopters of telecom infrastructure. It meant when a lot of other countries were wiring up internet for the first time, they weren’t faced with the prospect of having to piggyback existing and aged infrastructure. eg in some cases they could leapfrog copper almost entirely and jump straight to fibre.

Politicians in "old world" countries explicitly decided to stick to existing copper infrastructure instead of rolling out something better. These countries like to pretend corruption isn't an issue for them, but then you have asinine decisions like this.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The maximum speed available at my London address is 35 mbps download and 5.5 mbps upload. It hasn't changed in the seven years I've been living here. The best mobile connection I get is two bars of 3G unless it rains.

Oh boy I feel for you. Is it because of the house/street or a general issue in London?

I have 1gbps fibre in central London and generally see >750mbps in real link speed, 900 on a good day.

At my previous flat 150mbps was the fastest available. So it varies a lot in London on where exactly you are.

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