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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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Post by bumpyliquor » Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 7:56 PM UTC

* Does anyone else feels like that? Yes. 2 multinationals. From bad to (much) worse. Highly pathological orgs in the Westrum scale. I was annoyed by it all in the first one but it hit the bottom with the current one. I hate every second I spend there now.

* What do you do to overcome this feeling? I'm aggressively interviewing aiming to smaller companies. Hope I'll get out and into a healthier env before I get sick.

PS: Most of these companies are a dead empty shell already. It's just that due to inertia it will take years or decades for them to actually die, if we assume they operate in a mildly healthy market -and that's a big IF. There's loads of them out there. Actually the majority is like that. Bands that made a few good albums and are capitalising on past glory.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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Post by kurupt213 » Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 12:39 AM UTC

If 30 of your 40 hours are productive, you are winning.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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Post by jrs235 » Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 1:37 AM UTC

jrs235 wrote: post #88

npacenop wrote: post #50

I don't want to sound like the bad guy here who defends corporate, but I kind of feel like OP and a lot of comments are missing the point. Which is: large business organizations are complex social structures. You can't have a complex social structure without a lot of communication going on. Of course there are zounds of different ways to communicate with each other and if you (and your colleagues) feel like certain m…

>However they are not party to some decision loops and are often on the receiving end of architecture and design decisions. Most of them start to complain about that sooner or later, so I ask them to start participating in more meetings... And if they decided to attend these meetings are they still expected to maintain the same "velocity/story points/etc."? Because if so then they will likely have to work outside of…

And then they become disengaged. And then when they never get raises beyond 2-3% do you wonder why they jump ship and change companies too?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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Post by theshrike79 » Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 2:38 PM UTC

moltar wrote: post #137

janstice wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sales engineer or a sales-side Solution Architect - lots of fun if you have a good team (and product) behind you, frustrating if not.

Hm, PayScale salaries for Sales Engineers are rather low.

Sales people tend to be on commission a lot.

So if you hook a big client, you can go and order that Tesla :)

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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Post by aikex » Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 11:58 PM UTC

I overcame this feeling by looking at it as more of an "engineering problem". The "bs" happens naturally when there are a lot of people.. You can act actively to mitigate this.. say that you think something is useless, propose something better.. and we have many biases, it is difficult to understand the value of something and quickly label it as "bs".