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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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I wish i was always in front of customers. I wouldn’t have had the product or any managers acting as proxies and agreeing on things that don’t make any sense and don’t bring any value to them. Most people think that customers have no idea, while in most cases if you put the right knowledgable people in front of them they would build amazing features together. I have seen it in an AI startup! Whenever us devs worked w…

Techy folks with people skills are in high demand nowadays. Someone who can sell a project directly to the customer while also knowing exactly what is possible and in what timeframe without having to consult someone else is worth their weight in gold. We still have a few too many "hype-men" type salespeople who are in the Always Be Closing mindset without any sense of what's actually deliverable or even sensible.

I’m very much like that. What’s that role/position called? Sales engineer? Or is it more than that?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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I don't want to sound like the bad guy here who defends corporate, but I kind of feel like OP and a lot of comments are missing the point. Which is: large business organizations are complex social structures. You can't have a complex social structure without a lot of communication going on. Of course there are zounds of different ways to communicate with each other and if you (and your colleagues) feel like certain m…

never seen "zounds" used as a unit of measure like that but I can't pass up an opportunity to share the trivia that it's a contraction of "god's wounds"

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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Techy folks with people skills are in high demand nowadays. Someone who can sell a project directly to the customer while also knowing exactly what is possible and in what timeframe without having to consult someone else is worth their weight in gold. We still have a few too many "hype-men" type salespeople who are in the Always Be Closing mindset without any sense of what's actually deliverable or even sensible.

I’m very much like that. What’s that role/position called? Sales engineer? Or is it more than that?

Sales engineer or a sales-side Solution Architect - lots of fun if you have a good team (and product) behind you, frustrating if not.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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I don't want to sound like the bad guy here who defends corporate, but I kind of feel like OP and a lot of comments are missing the point. Which is: large business organizations are complex social structures. You can't have a complex social structure without a lot of communication going on. Of course there are zounds of different ways to communicate with each other and if you (and your colleagues) feel like certain m…

You are right. It is what it is due to complex systems... The thing is that neither the holes diggger nor the holes manager find happiness doing this.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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I’m very much like that. What’s that role/position called? Sales engineer? Or is it more than that?

Sales engineer or a sales-side Solution Architect - lots of fun if you have a good team (and product) behind you, frustrating if not.

Hm, PayScale salaries for Sales Engineers are rather low.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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There are many self-made millionaires. Not sure if you are a dev or not...but you can always make an app or a game that takes off? Your life circumstances may lead you to the app and you could make it out of necessity for yourself. Honestly, I'm content with being in middle class but I also think about future opportunities and work towards bigger goals.

> There are many self-made millionaires. It's about 8.7% in North America according and 2.7% in Europe to Credit Suisse[1]. That is not _many_, that is _very few_ in my dictionary. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of...

Expressed differently, 1 in 37 people is a millionaire. Sounds achievable.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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Why? Are you that sensitive?

Not OP, and I wouldn't quit over a single message, or single bot. That said, it is a red flag that the company ok with spamming the employees to virtue signal. It is likely that it will be accompanied with other annoyances and has an incompatible culture. Better to get out before you go crazy or get fired.

Conversely, an employee reacting so strongly to attempts at introducing gender-inclusive language might be a red flag too. If the employee can't tolerate that, they may have similar hangups about indentation, brace placement, choice of technology, office environment, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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> There are many self-made millionaires. It's about 8.7% in North America according and 2.7% in Europe to Credit Suisse[1]. That is not _many_, that is _very few_ in my dictionary. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of...

Expressed differently, 1 in 37 people is a millionaire. Sounds achievable.

Not really. Plus, being a millionaire (e.g. net worth of 1,1m) in San Francisco might not mean exactly what you think it means.
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