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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#101

I am at a FAANG and feel exactly the same: constant meetings (20+ hours a week), insane bike shedding, code reviews cycles that take a huge amount of time, … I don’t know what my next move will be, but I likely won’t last too long here. I dream of running my own saas where I completely run the show by myself (support, development, marketing) and make decent middle class income from it but I don’t think I’m good enoug…

what do you do there? data science as well?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#102
post #37

Left IT, make couch change wage selling car parts now. Forced to get out of the house but also zero traffic, its a 2 minute walk. First job in 10+ years I didn't hate after 2 weeks.

I'd leave IT if I could find a place to rent that's not sky-high. Even much of the country-side is quite expensive and hard to afford with a regular paying job, assuming you could find a job in those kind of places in the first place. IT is the only thing I can do and still make rent, but I'm so tired of it.

I’d leave IT if everything else that interested me didn’t require me to basically give up the rest of my youth and tens of thousands of dollars.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#103
I started working at startups in the early 00's right out of school, and arrived at roughly the same conclusion you did.

I switched to working in higher ed at a research institution (making much less, of course). I won't pretend that I'm out there saving lives or anything, and I won't pretend that there's not still a massive amount of BS and red tape, but at the end of the day I do go home and think I might be contributing something actually useful to the researchers and educators who are using my software.

It's important to not define yourself by your work, but it's also important to feel like your work has some meaning. I just couldn't find that at startups (even one I had high hopes for, in the energy sector working on smart grid tech).

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite... my argument is that a lot of meetings are necessary to keep an organization ticking - decision making is just a part of it. If for anyone that feels like corporate bs (which is a perfectly valid standpoint!!!), well... these people aren't cut for a corporate life. What's the problem in that? If I don't like children I probably wouldn't try to become a kindergarten teacher, if I absolutely can't stand com…

> If for anyone that feels like corporate bs (which is a perfectly valid standpoint!!!), well... these people aren't cut for a corporate life. If someone feels like a meeting is "corporate bs", that speaks to a failing of those hosting the meeting to properly communicate the intent of the meeting. If you are not able to effectively communicate with the people you work with, perhaps it is you who isn't cut out for cor…

Agreed! It is of course not always the employee's fault for not "liking" meetings. Pretty often meetings are not well prepared (by the one who called for the meeting in the first place), not well moderated (if any kind of moderation is there at all) and there is little consideration if everyone on the invitee is really relevant or not. And some people are just not good at explaining stuff and communicating intent, as you said. These are all facts and I can't deny them. I am very often guilty of all of these mistakes myself. As is most probably everyone who has ever organised a meeting.

It takes effort to mitigate all that and it takes even more effort to try to work around it if it happens a lot. If you are ready and willing to improve the system - welcome to management ;) If this feels like a whole lot of crap to you - better stay away from big companies, do some consulting, find startups with like minded people... Staying on a job, being unmotivated or stressed out is not good for anyone involved.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#105
post #36

Yes. I have no solution for you, but all I can say is that I feel you. My coping mechanism was to work freelance; less hours and more "fun" projects, but freelance work also comes with its own flavor of bs, so I think it's just a flaw with the human condition at this point.

What flavor of bs would that be? I have no experience with, but aside from the usual "pay your own everything" and taxes, it seems like an alright place to be. I could also be very, or conditionally, wrong.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#107

I don't want to sound like the bad guy here who defends corporate, but I kind of feel like OP and a lot of comments are missing the point. Which is: large business organizations are complex social structures. You can't have a complex social structure without a lot of communication going on. Of course there are zounds of different ways to communicate with each other and if you (and your colleagues) feel like certain m…

Thanks for the satire. It's very good. Sounds almost as if you believe it!

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the training data right? How can you prevent exactly what the person you replied to is talking about. Situations where we ingrain the horrible nature of humankind because that's what we're training the AI on. Say you were building a credit score classifier NN. It's going to "learn" that African Americans have lower credit scores. Mostly because it's going to be trained on historic data, which is based on human in…

What you have now with organic matter AI is less transparent

Where's the "A" in that? Are you making an argument for a universal creator?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#109
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GP specified that it was "the worst part". Was a Slack bot that shunned people from writing "guys" the worst part of the "censorship" you were subjected to?

To be honest, a slack bot like that would make me quit on the spot.

Yeah, I'm getting kind of enraged just thinking about it.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

#110

I live in Belgium, didn't inherit millions from family and am in the middle working class. I'll stay in this working class, this is how it has been conceived, I'll never make millions. Once I understood and accepted this, I managed to work only 4 days a week and live more than finely with this salary. Work is only there to get my living wage, I detached completely from work life, I chat with colleague, I do what I'm…

There are many self-made millionaires. Not sure if you are a dev or not...but you can always make an app or a game that takes off? Your life circumstances may lead you to the app and you could make it out of necessity for yourself.

Honestly, I'm content with being in middle class but I also think about future opportunities and work towards bigger goals.

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