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Re: Introducing Threads in Beta

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Post by derefr »

sandstrom wrote: post #28

What I'd prefer is the Twist-style threads (Zulip may also have them), where every room/channel must contain only topics/threads, and those topics have a title/description, and any messages in them are 1-level (no nested threading). It looks like this: #office [room/channel] * Lunch [thread/topic] - Anyone wants to grab lunch today? [message] - Sure, I'll join! [message] - Me too! [message] * Printer doesn't work [th…

Does Twist support a "braided" view of threads, i.e. where you can see all messages in all threads in a channel ordered chronologically, with some clear visual indicator of which thread each message is from? (Sort of as if people are talking directly in the channel, but where every message has a threaded "provenance"; and where you can collapse/mute threads you don't care about, causing those messages to no longer show up in the braided view for you.)

This is kind of what you get from Slack's threads — if everyone always uses the "also share to channel" option in the thread, and if everyone also make sure to otherwise never post directly to the channel. Which is impossible to enforce, of course.

I feel like, without such a braided view, it'd be very hard to follow several threads at once, if you were e.g. helping multiple people in a "support" channel, with each conversation being a thread. Once you navigated into a thread, you wouldn't be able to see activity in sibling threads until you navigated out. You'd know that something happened, but you wouldn't be able to glance at the content to tell if it's more urgent than your current conversation. (You could rely on app toast notifications, but you might miss these if you glance away for a moment.)

Re: Introducing Threads in Beta

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Post by olah_1 »

There needs to be a way for rooms to communicate to clients which features they support.

I need to be able to make a room without threads (DMs, small group chats, etc). And clients should be able to see which features are enabled in each room and support them appropriately.

That is what a universal protocol would allow for.

Re: Introducing Threads in Beta

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Post by ravenstine »

What are people using Element for? I know that Element is a chat app... I actually have it installed. But it's not for work or anything. I thought it could be a cool replacement for Discord.

Nobody seems to be talking about anything on Element. There are plenty of Element rooms (or whatever they're called), but no matter how many of them I check out, they're all dead silent. There can be hundreds or thousands of joined users and I hear crickets. As a platform for socialization, I've found it pretty much useless. Am I doin' it wrong?

Re: Introducing Threads in Beta

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Post by DoItToMe81 »

ravenstine wrote: post #63

What are people using Element for? I know that Element is a chat app... I actually have it installed. But it's not for work or anything. I thought it could be a cool replacement for Discord. Nobody seems to be talking about anything on Element. There are plenty of Element rooms (or whatever they're called), but no matter how many of them I check out, they're all dead silent. There can be hundreds or thousands of join…

Most people I know who host a Matrix homeserver run it in closed federations or completely unfederated, out of concerns for people joining larger rooms and flooding the poor budget server.

Re: Introducing Threads in Beta

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Post by media-trivial »

sandstrom wrote: post #28

What I'd prefer is the Twist-style threads (Zulip may also have them), where every room/channel must contain only topics/threads, and those topics have a title/description, and any messages in them are 1-level (no nested threading). It looks like this: #office [room/channel] * Lunch [thread/topic] - Anyone wants to grab lunch today? [message] - Sure, I'll join! [message] - Me too! [message] * Printer doesn't work [th…

Google Chat (part of Google Workspace) has this. At work we use Slack though :/ (would like to try Chat instead).

Re: Introducing Threads in Beta

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Post by panick21_ »

ravenstine wrote: post #63

What are people using Element for? I know that Element is a chat app... I actually have it installed. But it's not for work or anything. I thought it could be a cool replacement for Discord. Nobody seems to be talking about anything on Element. There are plenty of Element rooms (or whatever they're called), but no matter how many of them I check out, they're all dead silent. There can be hundreds or thousands of join…

Not sure what you are talking about. Those Open-Source projects that use Matrix as a official chat are as active as any other open-source project rooms.

Re: Introducing Threads in Beta

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Post by benhurmarcel »

media-trivial wrote: post #65
sandstrom wrote: post #28

What I'd prefer is the Twist-style threads (Zulip may also have them), where every room/channel must contain only topics/threads, and those topics have a title/description, and any messages in them are 1-level (no nested threading). It looks like this: #office [room/channel] * Lunch [thread/topic] - Anyone wants to grab lunch today? [message] - Sure, I'll join! [message] - Me too! [message] * Printer doesn't work [th…

Google Chat (part of Google Workspace) has this. At work we use Slack though :/ (would like to try Chat instead).

My company uses Google Chat, which indeed has rooms with mandatory threads. You wouldn’t believe the number of people who just post their new topics in whatever last existing thread is visible. We’ve been using it for years now and asking people to create their own thread still happens several times a day. Most people just don’t get it.

I guess this is why Google Chat is now pushing thread-less rooms, and is rolling out on-the-fly threads like Slack.

Re: Introducing Threads in Beta

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Post by kvark »

ravenstine wrote: post #63

What are people using Element for? I know that Element is a chat app... I actually have it installed. But it's not for work or anything. I thought it could be a cool replacement for Discord. Nobody seems to be talking about anything on Element. There are plenty of Element rooms (or whatever they're called), but no matter how many of them I check out, they're all dead silent. There can be hundreds or thousands of join…

Most of the discussions on Rust graphics stack around wgpu (WebGPU implementation) happen on the Matrix protocol. There you can find our official rooms for communication both intra within developers and extra with community. It’s been working very well for us, and I’m quite excited to finally have threads.

Re: Introducing Threads in Beta

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Post by tjader »

ravenstine wrote: post #63

What are people using Element for? I know that Element is a chat app... I actually have it installed. But it's not for work or anything. I thought it could be a cool replacement for Discord. Nobody seems to be talking about anything on Element. There are plenty of Element rooms (or whatever they're called), but no matter how many of them I check out, they're all dead silent. There can be hundreds or thousands of join…

I run my own homeserver and bridges for IRC, WhatsApp, Telegram, Google Chat and Discord, so that I can access all my chats in a single place instead of several separate apps/browser tabs.

Re: Introducing Threads in Beta

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Post by stevenicr »

jeroenhd wrote: post #23
godelski wrote: post #9

How do you all find element channels. I'm interested in trying matrix but I also haven't really found channels I'm that interested in.

Each home server has a room directory. You can rooms in your client (top left in Element, I believe) or you can try browsing this list: https://view.matrix.org/

I really want to make a matrix servers not listed there list.. but I suppose it would have to be broken up into different pages and hosted in different parts of the world for different issues.

I have an open to the public (adult public) matrix server that will never make it on that list - and federation is turned off so it wouldn't show up in the rooms lists or whatever of any of those also.

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