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Indian lawmaker arrested after tweet criticising Narendra Modi

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Post by naruvimama »

MrBlueIncognito wrote: post #138
naruvimama wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should the country suffer the fanatic beliefs of a few rioters, have we not tried to settle that once and for all in 1947 at a huge price.

Rioters and protesters come from oppressed and impoverished communities. Nobody speaks for them. The media speaks for the rich and powerful politicians. It’s weird how the actual victims are portrayed as the wrongdoers here.

Illegal foreign sqatters and people who drive out locals through riots to capture more land through j!had.

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Post by markdown »

MrBlueIncognito wrote: post #148
markdown wrote: post #119

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That would give the rich the ability to defame the poor at will.

Defamation lawsuits are mostly filed by wealthy or influential individuals against common citizens. It is a tool to keep everyone that can’t afford decades-long legal battles obedient and shut. Laws regarding defamation do more harm than good to most people, especially vocal journalists.

So you agree it should be criminal, so that the rich can get prosecuted for it as well?

> Laws regarding defamation do more harm than good

Everyone thinks so until their lives are ruined by someone else causing mischief. BTW have you stopped beating your wife yet?

Re: Indian lawmaker arrested after tweet criticising Narendra Modi

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Post by mayankkaizen »

heikrana wrote: post #2

"In the capital, Delhi, bulldozers have demolished the homes of Muslims accused of rioting." Illegal housing was demolished without taking any religion into consideration.

I am bring lazy but I can cite at least 200 cases (from recent past) where Modi regime (mis)used government agencies to harass its critics/opponents/muslims and timing of each misuse was impeccable. As a case study, just see the use of ED in last 12 months alone. There is a remarkable pattern. Some person/org become critical of Modi and in next few days, he is arrested/detained/raided.

Of course Modi regime maintained that agencies were working independently and without any political motives. And naive people like you agree.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

naruvimama wrote: post #128
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #124

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> or for that matter oil imports from Russia India has been given a free pass on its oil and materiel imports from Russia. It's something China complains about quite a bit.

But US and Europe has increased it's purchase by 8 and 15 percent respectively

> US and Europe has increased it's purchase by 8 and 15 percent respectively

The U.S. has increased its purchase of Russian oil? That’s odd given we banned it…

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Post by FerociousTimes »

naruvimama wrote: post #68
einszwei wrote: post #56

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How is that relevant to the topic at hand? Please don't resort to whataboutery and lower the standard of discussion.

It shows the duplicity and double standards When the west starts point fingers at India for - free speech, human rights, co2 emissions or for that matter oil imports from Russia. There is still a colonial mindset at the institutional level where they believe they can just pass arbitrary unfounded judgments and the world has no choice but to accept it. But clearly the data exposes their duplicity.

Or the more logical explanation is that you're maybe a bit oversensitive to criticism just like the Indian government which proves the point made by The Guardian in exposing these abuses and holding people in power accountable for their policies.

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Post by mayankkaizen »

MrBlueIncognito wrote: post #61
zapdrive wrote: post #41

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Oh yeah, freedom of speech flourished under Congress rule /s Who was the only prime minister to invoke emergency?

The Nazis killed millions through their actions. Will that justify you killing even one?

RSS is the ideological parent of currently ruling political party (BJP). The second head and most powerful figure in RSS history was Golwalkar and he openly praised Hitler for 'fighting for his culture'.

https://thewire.in/politics/culture-ministry-ms-golwalkar-hi...

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Post by MrBlueIncognito »

1024core wrote: post #146
MrBlueIncognito wrote: post #72

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"who destroyed government or private property during a protest, strike or riot, and that if necessary, the property of the accused would be seized and auctioned to recover the money" — Narottam Mishra, Home Minister https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-61042315.amp If you’re a Muslim living in an illegally-built home and you were _accused_ of being involved in riots, they will bulldoze your life. The extremists…

> If you’re a Muslim living in an illegally-built home and you were _accused_ of being involved in riots, they will bulldoze your life. Just like they did with these Muslims and their Shiva temples: https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/bulldozer-razes-300-ye...

Demolishing a temple doesn’t justify demolishing Muslim homes. I don’t see what you’re arguing for here.

If I demolished a mosque, would I be allowed to selectively demolish the homes of Hindu rioters?

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Post by vijaybritto »

Throwaway0988 wrote: post #145

As an Indian, the situation is a bit more complicated than what the article frames it as. Religion (and caste) have always been a sensitive issue, to the extent that there are multiple laws preventing people from "inciting" others (and yes, these laws are often abused by whichever government happens to be holding power, including the ones before the current government) - this is especially true for public figures lik…

> While this is true, it also needs to be mentioned that Delhi is not under BJP government (the ruling party).

This is false. Delhi's law and order is directly under Amit Shah, the country's home minister(BJP).

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Post by mayankkaizen »

naruvimama wrote: post #125
koshergweilo wrote: post #3

I admit I'm not super familiar with India's freedom of speech, is this a backslide or has it always been like this?

The current Modi government is held to a much higher standard than the previous congress dynasty. Freedom of speech is much worse in non BJP states like Tamil Nadu. There is a huge cabal of bureaucracy, media, academia, judiciary and foreign institutions that profited handsomely under the corruption ecosystem built by the congress. They are infuriated by the people's choice of a more honest and a non-dynast like Modi…

Until 2014, BJP was the only democratic party in India which wasn't run by a authoritarian person. Current BJP is now the most authoritarian party where Modi-Shah call the shots. Can you name even a single person who is critical of Modi and still is in BJP? Who opposed ANY decision of Modi government?

If you think Gandhi dynasty was corrupt then why Modi wasn't able to put them in jail? Why didn't he press any charges against them? Again, if you believe Gandhis were corrupt then you should also believe Modi got innocents murdered. He committed genocide and there is no bigger crime than genocide.

I opposed Congress when it was in power without any fear. Initially I opposed Modi too but not anymore. Why? Because I'm scared for my life. That is the difference between Congress and BJP.

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